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Accelerated Challenge (Feb) - Finnish | ||
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| Chung Diglot Senior Member Joined 7155 days ago 4228 posts - 8259 votes  20 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Polish, Slovak, Uzbek, Turkish, Korean, Finnish | Message 57 of 64 22 March 2012 at 10:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Interesting.
For comparison's sake, a beginners' course for Finnish at a typical North American university's Finnish Studies program often entails about 4 hours in class/tutorial weekly over two semesters which means between 25 and 30 weeks depending on the university or about 100 hours worth of sitting/working in class. Based on the experience with my beginners' Polish course of the same duration at a university where we completed "Czesc, jak sie masz?" which covers up A1 and A2, this means that you guys developed approximately the same competency of a typical student in a beginners' language class in about a third of the time. Your discipline, multilingual backgrounds, and tapping into a network of like-minded people explains this difference. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
 songlines Pro Member Canada flickr.com/photos/cp Joined 5208 days ago 729 posts - 1056 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French Personal Language Map | Message 58 of 64 22 March 2012 at 10:25pm | IP Logged | |||||
Congratulations to the three of you! - Impressive and inspiring. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4677 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 59 of 64 22 March 2012 at 11:03pm | IP Logged | |||||
In 35 hours??? I didn't follow the whole story, but that seems very little, doesn't it? I mean, "30 days => A2" is impressive, but if it's only 35 hours, it sounds like some kind of magic. Really makes me want to take part in that kind of things! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6469 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 60 of 64 23 March 2012 at 12:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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Yes, 35 hours. The nice thing is that you can see exactly what we did from the 6 Week
Challenge logs, e. g. http://6wc.learnlangs.com/stats/user/Junesun Click on "tags" and you can see for example that most of my time was spent on Assimil, but also a lot on vocabulary and only 90 minutes on pronunciation. Actually, what I think helped me the most for this test was practising writing, that is coming up with my own sentences in variation from Assimil or trying to answer typical questions and looking up (and later studying) all words that I needed to express myself. I think Assimil isn't really suitable if you only have 35 hours and I scored less because it didn't for example cover the "ask for directions" situation that any other textbook would have managed to cover in that amount of time. I'd be curious to see where somebody could get if he spent 35 hours mostly on Teach Yourself, Colloquial or any other approach. 35 hours on a conversation-focussed (with teachers) approach would be very interesting, too and I might try that in the future. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 61 of 64 23 March 2012 at 12:50am | IP Logged | |||||
It was 35 hours within a 30-day period. And yes, you could say we did a bit of magic too. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| vermillon Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4677 days ago 602 posts - 1042 votes Speaks: French*, EnglishC2, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, German | Message 62 of 64 23 March 2012 at 12:06pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Sure, I understood it was within 30 days. Was the 35h a constraint you guys had set for yourselves, as an experiment? Why not have spent 30 days with more intensive studies on Finnish?
(answer: because you're busy with other languages, I suppose. But as it was an "accelerated challenge"..) Thanks for both your answers. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5380 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 63 of 64 23 March 2012 at 12:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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We wanted to settle on a feasible amount of hours that all could fulfill. We initially set out to do 45, but we
then readjusted to 35. We were all busy with other commitments, yes. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6469 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 64 of 64 23 March 2012 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
If it was just a matter of cutting back on other languages, I could have done that. However, there is also work and family to consider. Studying > 1 hour a day on average when you have a full-time job and kids like Arekkusu is something admirable. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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