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Serpent
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 Message 153 of 556
07 December 2013 at 8:00pm | IP Logged 
Kerrie wrote:
I would like to suggest an intermediate (or higher) Spanish team, as well as an intermediate (or higher) French team. I think both languages have enough learners here to do that, and I think the support we can give each other is of a different nature than "all Spanish/French learners."

I think there were a few problems with the Romance teams last year:

** First, so many newbies sign up (which is great), but most of them don't last. So the number of active people left on the team is a lot smaller.

** Second, grouping a whole family of languages together makes too many divisions. I would rather be part of a French team and a Spanish team than be part of a "Romance" team that has people studying 6 different languages.

Just my two cents. I'd be happy to be a leader for an intermediate+ Spanish team, if no one else wants to step up. :D
Ahem, the idea of Team Iberia was also that many non-beginner Spanish learners are interested in Portuguese or the minority languages. It's very different from the Romance teams, as the range is much smaller.

Basically, let's not overestimate the number of Spanish learners. Beginners are already advised to join Team STARt, so I'm pretty sure that Teams Iberia and Spanish intermediate+ would largely consist of the same people. And in this case it's better to go for the more inclusive option, as there will hardly be more than 3 people who are not studying Spanish, but there may well be some members who are put off by the restrictiveness. If a team has many intermediate+ Spanish learners, does it matter what it's called?
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Suzie
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 Message 154 of 556
07 December 2013 at 8:02pm | IP Logged 
Hi, I'm also in, with French and Dutch.

My French is (still) at B1, and I am aiming for C1 within the next 12 months.

My Dutch...is still in dormant mode, and I want to reactivate it in 2014 - My goal is to have a proper conversation with a Flemish person without the offer of my counterpart to switch to German or English :-)

Happy to join team Dutch, following Hekje's kind invitation!

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Kerrie
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 Message 155 of 556
07 December 2013 at 8:07pm | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
Kerrie wrote:
I would like to suggest an intermediate (or higher) Spanish team, as well as an intermediate (or higher) French team. I think both languages have enough learners here to do that, and I think the support we can give each other is of a different nature than "all Spanish/French learners."

I think there were a few problems with the Romance teams last year:

** First, so many newbies sign up (which is great), but most of them don't last. So the number of active people left on the team is a lot smaller.

** Second, grouping a whole family of languages together makes too many divisions. I would rather be part of a French team and a Spanish team than be part of a "Romance" team that has people studying 6 different languages.

Just my two cents. I'd be happy to be a leader for an intermediate+ Spanish team, if no one else wants to step up. :D
Ahem, the idea of Team Iberia was also that many non-beginner Spanish learners are interested in Portuguese or the minority languages. It's very different from the Romance teams, as the range is much smaller.

Basically, let's not overestimate the number of Spanish learners. Beginners are already advised to join Team STARt, so I'm pretty sure that Teams Iberia and Spanish intermediate+ would largely consist of the same people. And in this case it's better to go for the more inclusive option, as there will hardly be more than 3 people who are not studying Spanish, but there may well be some members who are put off by the restrictiveness. If a team has many intermediate+ Spanish learners, does it matter what it's called?


I think that there are a lot of Spanish learners who are NOT interested in Portuguese, too. I'm not interested in being part of a Portuguese team for 2014. So again, I will end up following only half the team. Which kind of defeats the whole idea of a team.

At least in my mind.

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Serpent
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 Message 156 of 556
07 December 2013 at 8:15pm | IP Logged 
It wouldn't be half the team though. There are definitely not enough (serious) Portuguese learners to form a team, and even fewer Portuguese learners who aren't learning Spanish.

Edited by Serpent on 07 December 2013 at 8:16pm
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Sh'Naya
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 Message 157 of 556
07 December 2013 at 9:47pm | IP Logged 
Spanish: ~B2, goal: ~C1
French: ~A2, goal: ~B2
Japanese: ~JLPT N4, goal: to get better
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 Message 158 of 556
07 December 2013 at 9:48pm | IP Logged 
I'd also be interested in joining any TAC 2014 team which is focussing on French. Haven't yet decided
on other languages - it depends on my travel plans - but if I do add any others, I'll either just study them as an
an individual, or join the other-language teams separately.

(Also posted on TAC 2013 PAX thread.)
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Kerrie
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 Message 159 of 556
08 December 2013 at 12:59am | IP Logged 
Serpent wrote:
It wouldn't be half the team though. There are definitely not enough (serious) Portuguese learners to form a team, and even fewer Portuguese learners who aren't learning Spanish.


Alright, nevermind my opinion then.
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Cavesa
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 Message 160 of 556
08 December 2013 at 2:44am | IP Logged 
a mistake, nevermind

Edited by Cavesa on 08 December 2013 at 3:00am


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