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| Chris13 Groupie FinlandRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4054 days ago 53 posts - 64 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Swedish, Finnish | Message 1 of 73 18 June 2014 at 8:10pm | IP Logged |
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Okay, so upon returning to the UK I have had to face a lot of changes since living here before the move. The particular area I'm from is not exactly prevalent for its language competency to say the least. However, I've recently noticed a particular "mistake" that is driving me to depths of insanity and it usually takes every semblance of self-control I can muster to not utter the correct word as soon as the speaker has misused it.
"Somethink" "Anythink" The above are the main culprits, but it got me thinking - besides the fact I have no idea if it's a regional error, though I've seen it on television and even in songs - do similar things happen in your vernacular? If so, what would be the main examples? *Edited to fix a typo Edited by Chris13 on 18 June 2014 at 8:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4912 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 2 of 73 18 June 2014 at 8:38pm | IP Logged |
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When I first came to England, I was supply teaching in a fairly rough school in Northampton. One day a girl asked what I thought about their accent, and then she asked, "Do we sound fick?"* I thought to myself, "Not until just now." In the same school I saw students actually write "somefink" in their work. The thing is, these kids were smart enough, but that's just the way everyone around them spoke.
*"thick" is British slang for stupid. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| soclydeza85 Senior Member United States Joined 3910 days ago 357 posts - 502 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, French | Message 3 of 73 18 June 2014 at 9:03pm | IP Logged |
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American English is riddled with these kinds of things. What gets me the most is poorly spoken grammar (on purpose). Examples:
Who you be with? You be crazy I seen it What is you doing (this is just the basic gist; there is a whole way of talking like this. It gets worse when they spell the word the way it sounds) It doesn't bother me if it's a foreigner or maybe someone from in impoverished area with poor education, I completely understand that. But I meet people that grew up in middle-class homes in nice, rural areas that talk like this to sound more tough or "gangsta", but they just sound like fools to me. It's mainly just amongst youth though. And don't get me started on made-up "words" from pop-culture that make their way into everyday speech.... Edited by soclydeza85 on 18 June 2014 at 9:04pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| drygramul Tetraglot Senior Member Italy Joined 4471 days ago 165 posts - 269 votes Speaks: Persian, Italian*, EnglishC2, GermanB2 Studies: French, Polish | Message 4 of 73 18 June 2014 at 9:21pm | IP Logged |
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For Italian "a me mi" is considered a mistake by many, but it's very common and not irky at all. (and to tell the truth in an informal conversation it's not even a mistake)
I can't stand people that use intransitive verbs (in a specific context) as if they were transitive. It seems it's common in southern Italy. I won't use the most classic example, which is indecent, but for instance: - Scendi il cane che lo passeggio roughly translated as come down the dog so that I walk him 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5769 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin | Message 5 of 73 18 June 2014 at 9:21pm | IP Logged |
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Oh no! Ways of using the language that make me feel like I am excluded from the group.
Of course there are. I dislike the way words like geil and krass are used. Because, I knew those words, and they meant different things, and then those kids learnt those words and used them differently from how I'd used them. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| ScottScheule Diglot Senior Member United States scheule.blogspot.com Joined 5231 days ago 645 posts - 1176 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Latin, Hungarian, Biblical Hebrew, Old English, Russian, Swedish, German, Italian, French | Message 6 of 73 18 June 2014 at 9:42pm | IP Logged |
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I find nearly all of us descriptivists, no matter how pure we try to be, still bristle at certain usages. For instance, I'm willing to accept singular they, but once you drop the [s] sound at the end of "coup de grace," well then sir you've really gone too far.
I also think people should say "octopodes" instead of "octopi." Those are the big two. Strangely enough, I don't care that people put the stress in babushka on the wrong syllable. PS: I'm secretly curious how far such a provocative-titled thread can go before someone's feelings get hurt. Given that Bao already seems irked, perhaps it's finally time to implement a forum wide rule: never say anything negative about anything. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4892 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 7 of 73 18 June 2014 at 10:02pm | IP Logged |
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You mean you are supposed to pronounce the [s] ?!?
(wanders off for a quick look in the dictionary) IPA: /ku də ɡrɑs/ IPA: /ku də ɡrɑː/ (hyperforeign)—Some English speakers, aware that some final consonants are dropped in French, overcompensate by dropping the final /s/ sound in grâce, making this sound like French coup de gras (“strike of grease”). This mispronunciation is quickly becoming ubiquitous and is being popularized by the media (e.g., it occurs twice in Quentin Tarantino's Kill Bill Volume 2). I've been doing this without even thinking about it, and yet in retrospect it's so obviously wrong. And I've caught myself doing it before - I've tried to make words sound more French by dropping the final consonant of everything. I didn't know there was an actual term for this (hyperforeign) Edited by kanewai on 18 June 2014 at 10:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| biagio Newbie Italy Joined 5211 days ago 26 posts - 33 votes Speaks: English | Message 8 of 73 18 June 2014 at 10:29pm | IP Logged |
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"Di questo NE parliamo..."
It drives me insane. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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