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| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 81 of 134 11 August 2013 at 8:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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@FK - oh,I nearly missed you there! Yes, my grammar studies come in waves. Just hope I don't drown!
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| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5132 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 82 of 134 11 August 2013 at 9:15pm | IP Logged | |||||
Ha, ha, it's so 1954! Made me cringe a few times... but I still enjoyed it, probably mostly because it still amazed me that I could actually read books in Polish :)
Thanks for the recommendation, looks really good! That's one of the gifts of language learning: being able to get access to a different culture, their history, challenges and perspectives. You seem to be making a lot of progress, that's inspiring! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 83 of 134 27 August 2013 at 1:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Anki = 4201
Hours Studied = 59 (Total: 827) I'm finding Szkarlarski heavy going. I've been reading it quite intensively and only got to page 25. To speed things up, I'll read it more extensively and limit new vocabulary checks to a maximum of 2 per page. Sometimes it's simply odd syntax that slows me down. I stumbled across this European Travelogue written by a Polish couple. There are over 40 pages of photos and short text, so it's an enjoyable read. Apart from that, I'm listening to podcasts, watching TV and crawling through Colloquial Polish. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 84 of 134 27 August 2013 at 2:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Words I Muddle Up
I am slowly recovering from APWSTS ("All Polish Words Sound The Same") syndrome. Here are some are the worst culprits: 1. drzewo v drewno ("tree" v "wood") 2. pieśń v pleśń ("song" v "mildew / mould") 3. czerń v cierń ("blackness" v "thorn") 4. wyciek v wycieczka ("leakage / outflow" v "trip / outing") 5. zmierzyć v zamierzać ("to measure" v "to intend") 6. sadzić v sądzić ("to plant" v "to judge / think") 7. założenie v zakłócenie ("assumption" v "disruption") 8. zadanie v zdanie ("a task" v "opinion / sentence") 9. śliniak v ślimak ("bib" v "snail") 10. książę v kziążka v ksiądz ("prince" v "book" v "priest") 11. zwiększenie v zawieszenie ("increase" v "suspension") 12. gaśnica v gąsienica ("fire extinguisher" v "caterpillar") 13. puszcza v paszcza ("wild forest" v "jaws") 14. pięść v pięć ("fist" v "five / 5") There are lots more, and the confusion is compounded with declined forms and conjugates. However, my powers of distinction have improved, at least in reading. Fast speech is tricky, and context plays a big part in identifying the correct word. Edited by Mooby on 27 August 2013 at 2:50pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Fuenf_Katzen Diglot Senior Member United States notjustajd.wordpress Joined 4371 days ago 337 posts - 476 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Polish, Ukrainian, Afrikaans | Message 85 of 134 03 September 2013 at 5:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I got a good laugh out of this entry (because I suffer from the same syndrome!) Książę/kziążka/ksiądz is just painful for me--but I also have to add "księżyc" in there as well! I think I've always somewhat relied on context in figuring out the right word. Especially in fast speech, I have the worst time trying to distinguish the nasal vowels--probably because a lot of speakers seem to not pronounce them. With that issue, I'm doing an experiment where I'm pronouncing the nasal vowels even if it's in a position where usually it would not be done that way. Something tells me there is a difference in pronunciation and maybe by starting off being hyper-correct, eventually I'll be able to hear in my own speech where those differences lie. At least the cz/si/sz/si etc. differences aren't as much of a problem anymore!
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| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 86 of 134 19 September 2013 at 1:10pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Anki = 4277
Hours Studied = 78 (Total: 905) I've given up with Szklarski. The two books were well-intentioned gifts, but they are simply not my cup of tea. I'll keep them for another day, when I can skim through them (at the the moment I can only plod slowly). I've switched to another book Spadkobierca by Jan Łysakowski. I came across a cheap edition on ebay, and because I liked the cover, I took a chance and bought it. I can't say what it's about exactly, but it seems to be a part political, part self-reflection kind of novel set in the early 1980's and is the last in a trilogy. The dialogue and style is a lot more comfortable to read, so I'll finish it. My other reading includes the travelogue I mentioned in post no.83 above, plus online magazine articles on anything that takes my fancy. Listening to radio podcasts still, though not everyday. And watching "Samo Życie" (now up to episode 306 - I can't believe it; I'd never watch even one episode if it was in English!). I chew on a bit of grammar now and then, and am mid-way through lesson 14 of Colloquial Polish (1995 editon) which is introducing me to the tortures of the Polish numbering system. I've summarised the main grammar points and put them onto Anki using sentences to illustrate the grammar where possible. My speaking practise has diminished over the summer as many of my usual partners have been on holiday or simply too busy. Agnieszka is starting a degree course in biochemistry and Grażyna is both working and studying, so I need to broaden my search or maybe try Skype. In the meantime my easiest outlet for language output would be writing - though it's hard work in comparison to reading and listening, but I must force myself to get producing. Words of the Week Obfitość - "abundance", "profusion" Głaskać imper. - "to stroke". My guinea pig doesn't like it when I stroke her ('moja świnka nie lubi gdy ją głaszczę') Czad - "carbon monoxide *", "stench from burning" + "Chad" the country in Africa. Pump up the volume !! ('więcej czadu !!') in reference to music, motorbikes etc. *NOTE: 'Tlenek węgła' appears to be the formal scientific name for carbon monoxide. Szczep - "tribe", "strain" of bacteria etc.: 
A bacteria | two bacteria | a strain ('tribe') of bacteria Random Musical Offerings Raz Dwa Trzy - Jutro możemy być szczęśliwi Czerwony tulipan - Jedyne co mam Maanam - Nie poganiaj mnie bo tracę oddech Kayah - Za późno Edited by Mooby on 19 September 2013 at 5:11pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Bakunin Diglot Senior Member Switzerland outerkhmer.blogspot. Joined 5132 days ago 531 posts - 1126 votes Speaks: German*, Thai Studies: Khmer | Message 87 of 134 19 September 2013 at 6:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
You're getting close to 1000 as well, Mooby :) I've been going pretty slow these past two months (we had a fantastic summer in Central Europe), but rainy, dark autumn has arrived this week and I might be picking up speed again. It's a challenge to stay ahead of you :)) Have you tried the usual language exchange platforms (italki, LiveMocha, busuu etc.) for finding a partner to practice speaking with? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Mooby Senior Member Scotland Joined 6107 days ago 707 posts - 1220 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Polish | Message 88 of 134 19 September 2013 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Well, 1000 hours for 2013 was my goal, and I should manage that easily.
I certainly need to sort out my speaking practise. I've just let unplanned opportunities happen, so it's time to be more pro-active. I need to get myself connected to Skype and take the plunge. The truth is, I'm a little shy and nervous! I tried busuu and used the "live chat" feature which involved typing short messages. But it was slow and you can wait a long time for a reply. All sorts of possibilities exist, I just need to get off my backside and start doing it. Edited by Mooby on 20 September 2013 at 12:17am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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