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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6674 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 9 of 62 27 January 2011 at 8:11am | IP Logged | |||||
I agree. Luca's Spanish sounds native (Castilian). Richard Torbyrne sounds native in Spanish (Latin American) and Catala (Central). Edited by slucido on 27 January 2011 at 1:43pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Cammela Tetraglot Newbie Senegal Joined 5052 days ago 28 posts - 31 votes Speaks: French*, ItalianC2, Spanish, GermanB2 | Message 11 of 62 27 January 2011 at 9:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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Torbyrne is great, he doesn't sound like a native, but his accent is very good.
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| CheeseInsider Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5121 days ago 193 posts - 238 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin* Studies: French, German | Message 12 of 62 27 January 2011 at 9:42am | IP Logged | |||||
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Luca has really good standard pronunciation in Mandarin. Almost like a true mainlander :)
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| slucido Bilingual Diglot Senior Member Spain https://goo.gl/126Yv Joined 6674 days ago 1296 posts - 1781 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Spanish*, Catalan* Studies: English | Message 13 of 62 27 January 2011 at 1:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
Luca Lampariello explains here his method: Part one: http://womenlearnthai.com/index.php/part-one-an-easy-way-to- learn-foreign-languages/ Part two: http://womenlearnthai.com/index.php/an-easy-way-to-learn-for eign-languages-part-two/ Edited by slucido on 27 January 2011 at 1:47pm 6 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| translator2 Senior Member United States Joined 6918 days ago 848 posts - 1862 votes Speaks: English* | Message 14 of 62 27 January 2011 at 3:23pm | IP Logged | |||||
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This guy is pretty good too (Spanish and teaching about language learning):
Tartansoxdundas And another great thing about YT language learners is that you can find a lot of interesting people and sites through their channels. Edited by translator2 on 27 January 2011 at 3:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5429 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 15 of 62 28 January 2011 at 2:42pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I know we are talking about pronunciation (under the general term of accent), and I share the general evaluation that few polyglots sound really native, although some are closer than others. The whole thing confirms to me how difficult it is to develop native-like pronunciation at an adult age.
I don't want to re-ignite that contentious debate about the importance of sounding like a native, but I'm curious as to why this focus on comparing to a so-called idealized native. Why not look at intelligibility or pleasantness? I personally am much more interested in the mastery of grammar and idiomatic vocabulary. I tend to look at what the person has to say rather than how well they pronounce the words. This is what really impresses me. As I've said on many occasions, I find the presence of a slight accent actually quite pleasant. I would go so far as to say that it can be more charming than sounding like a native. I personally like listening to Steve Kaufman in his various languages because he usually has something interesting to say, regardless of his accent. In French, he doesn't sound native Québécois, French, Belgian, Swiss, Martiniquan or whatever. So what? It doesn't bother me at all. This whole thing reminds me of all these Youtube videos of non-Chinese people speaking (excellent) Chinese. There seems to be something exotic about seeing a black person speaking perfect Mandarin or Cantonese. As if this were something impossible. Historically and statistically this is rare, but we all know that it's all a question of how one has been exposed to the language. If you look at Europe today, and even more so North America, many combinations of racial or ethnic origins and language are very common. 6 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5429 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 16 of 62 28 January 2011 at 3:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
I had a look at this this video and after listening to Carl teaching English, the thought occurred to me that I'm not sure that as a learner of English I would want to sound like Carl. I'm not sure where his accent is from, but I would certainly not recommend it as an ideal for most learners, especially for people who intend to interact with North Americans. There's nothing wrong with his accent of course, but it is a very localized British accent. Should learners of English strive to sound like Carl? 1 person has voted this message useful |
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