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getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5469 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch
| Message 33 of 43 02 July 2015 at 3:23am | IP Logged |
Weten jullie goede films in 't Nederlands? Ik weet alleen "Rent a friend" en "Maidentrip".
Yesterday I tried duolingo. Specifically, I tried out the Dutch course on the android duolingo app. I did three lessons before giving up. I really don't like the robotic voice they got going on for their Dutch course, _or_ her accent... she sounds like a German robot speaking Dutch.
Hoy estuve boludeando con el curso de Sueco en la susodicha app. Es un poco divertido (nunca antes estudié sueco), aunque también tiene una voz robótica. Me pregunto que tan bien pronuncia los tonos léxicos del sueco la "robot-kvinna". Hasta ahora, el app nunca me pidió que hable. Es que algunos cursos no tienen práctica hablada o es la versión del app en android que no tiene esta función? En fin, me gusta el tema del artículo definido pospuesto. Nunca antes estudié una lengua que tuviera algo así. Algún día me gustaría estudiar sueco "mas seriamente".
Eigenlijk, vind ik dat 't Nederlands erg mooi klinkt.
Edited by getreallanguage on 02 July 2015 at 9:46pm
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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4288 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan
| Message 34 of 43 02 July 2015 at 3:41am | IP Logged |
getreallanguage wrote:
Ok, that makes sense. What about the je/jouw thing?
Also, what if I want to put extra emphasis on "ik" in the original sentence? Is
stress/tone the only way in that case or can I do it through word order? |
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Que yo sepa, "je" en "jouw" son lo mismo, siendo éste el que le da más énfasis.
En cuanto a "ik ben..." con énfasis para que dé el sentido de «lo hago yo» y no otra
persona, creo que te quedan dos opciones. La primera es decir "ik" con más fuerza, "
Ik kom thuis vandaag". La segunda es un poco más complicada, decir, como en
español, «Soy yo quien vuelvo hoy a casa» con el mismo sentido de yo vuelvo, y soy el
único, nadie más, que vuevlo. Esto se puede hacer con la construcción, "Ik ben degene
die vandaag thuis kom", lit.: «Soy yo el que vuevlo hoy a casa». Pero dado que la
frase ya es corta, optaría por la primera, lo escucho con más frecuencia en el habla
coloquial. Además, la segunda con "degene die" tiene otro sentido de implicar que es
a esa misma persona a quien le corresponde hacer algo, en vez de darle énfasis y se
complican las cosas aún más. En resumen, yo diría simplemente, "Ik + [verbo]".
Bueno pues me complace decirte que la forma de pronunciar las palabras enel neerlandés
es bastante similar a la del español, y no quiero decir que suenen igual ni que el
acento prosódico sea igual, sino que todo lo que leas, lo pronuncias como indica el
alfabeto neerlandés. Lo mismo pasa con el sueco, y les cuesta a muchos que esto no
pase con, por ejemplo, en inglés, el francés, el danés, etc.
Edited by 1e4e6 on 02 July 2015 at 4:38am
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 35 of 43 02 July 2015 at 5:41am | IP Logged |
getreallanguage wrote:
Ok, that makes sense. What about the je/jouw thing?
Also, what if I want to put extra emphasis on "ik" in the original sentence? Is
stress/tone the only way in that case or can I do it through word order? |
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Put "Ik" up front, but I would stress ik using tone anyways
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| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5469 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch
| Message 36 of 43 04 July 2015 at 4:36am | IP Logged |
Dank je wel allemaal!
Oggi ho imparato a dire De rijst van m'n vriendin is uitstekend, Ik hou van je rijst eten and the possible joke Ik hou van jouw... rijst eten.
Ho fatto la domanda Weten jullie goede films in 't Nederlands? Ik weet alleen "Rent a friend" en "Maidentrip" su facebook e alcuni mi hanno detto alcune sugerenze. Solo resta encontrarlas, lo cual quizás lleve algún tiempo...
La mattina dico alla mia ragazza Wil je koffie? Wil je thee? Wil je iets eten?. Non ho piu di opportunita di parlare l'olandese, so I take whatever opportunity I can get. En fin, buenas noches, en tot ziens!
Leven is makkelijker dan je denkt, maar moeilijker als je denkt.
Edited by getreallanguage on 05 July 2015 at 1:23am
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| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5469 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch
| Message 37 of 43 05 July 2015 at 1:57am | IP Logged |
Ho fatto ancora il meme in olandese di prima colla correzione dell'ordine della frase: cdn.meme.am/instances/500x/63296938.jpg
The first time I started studying Dutch in 2011, I was using Teach Yourself Dutch, Anki, mijnwoordenboek.nl, and I consulted this very forum and a few Dutch acquaintances from youtube. Now I've added a book called Essential Dutch Grammar. It's a very short and to the point grammar written by Henry R. Stern and published by Dover in 1984.
I also have a small paper dictionary but mijnwoordenboek is so good I never have to use it. These days, as opposed to back in 2011, mijnwoordenboek also has a pronunciation key for entries using phonetic transcription, which is great for me.
I have also joined a couple Facebook groups for learners. Now all that remains is to work on the language every day if I can manage, and look in the mirror and say veel succes!
Ik hou van talen dat mooi klinkt. En 't Nederlands klinkt erg mooi.
Edited by getreallanguage on 05 July 2015 at 6:26am
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| getreallanguage Diglot Senior Member Argentina youtube.com/getreall Joined 5469 days ago 240 posts - 371 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English Studies: Italian, Dutch
| Message 38 of 43 05 July 2015 at 11:07am | IP Logged |
Vandaag: In 't Engels een telefoon klinkt "ring!". In 't Spaans klinkt "rin!". In 't Italiaans klinkt "drin!". In 't Nederlands klinkt "preng!". Or does it? Everybody who replied on my question regarding this on facebook disagreed. For Dutch alternatives, I got "ring", "tring", "dring" and even "piep", "ping" and "tuut", but several denials of the existance of "preng". To be sure, I got it off a song by De Jeugd van Tegenwoordig, who are known for wordplay, so who can say. Their song "Get Spanish" is all kinds of hilarious, especially for people who know Dutch, Spanish and English.
Vandaag is een feestdag geweest, maar ik ben thuis gebleven. I turned off the sound on Duolingo and did a Dutch lesson. At this stage I can use all the vocabulary acquisition I can get, no matter where I get it from. I also did a few Swedish ones voor de lol, with the sound turned on. Duolingo is exceedingly slow on my browser, which is a pain, but pretty slick on the android tablet.
On Facebook I posted on one of the groups:
Hallo allemaal! Ik kom uit Argentinie, maar ik woon in San Francisco. Ik spreek Spaans (natuurlijk - het is m'n moedertaal), vrij goed Engels en een beetje Italiaans. Tegenwoordig leer ik Nederlands met "Teach Yourself Dutch". En natuurlijk met Facebook! Ik wens jullie veel succes met je vreemde talen :)
On two other groups I changed the last sentence to
Ik wens jullie veel succes met je Nederlands :)
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Prima, dank je, en tot straks :)
It's always a good idea to add a smilie at the end. I might speak troglodiet Nederlands at this stage, but at least I'm smiling and being nice. Beetje bij beetje.
Tengo el cerebro un poco frito y es tarde así que nada de Italiano en este post, aunque lo usé un poco hoy.
Finally, I'll make use of this occasion to bring up my policy regarding corrections. I welcome and encourage any and all corrections. Prima, dank je wel, en tot ziens!
Oost of west, thuis is de best
Edited by getreallanguage on 06 July 2015 at 12:12am
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| PeterMollenburg Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5474 days ago 821 posts - 1273 votes Speaks: English* Studies: FrenchB1
| Message 39 of 43 05 July 2015 at 11:49am | IP Logged |
Hoi getreallanguage,
ik ben begonnen om je 'taalreis' te lezen. Ik wilde je één dingetje vragen... waarom heb je het Nederlands
gekozen? Alleen omdat jij de taal mooi vindt? Of anders? Ik vind het ook een mooie taal :) Tussen twee
haakjes, veel success met je Nederlands!
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| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4288 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan
| Message 40 of 43 05 July 2015 at 9:07pm | IP Logged |
Pues che esto ya es interesante. ¿De qué parte de San Francisco vivís? Vivo tanto en esa
ciudad como Mánchester en Inglaterra. Amo a BsAs, preferiría vivir allí que esos dos. No
lo sabía, vaya munco pequeño. Perdoname si te lo había preguntado antes, pero ¿de qué
parte de BsAs sos?
Edited by 1e4e6 on 05 July 2015 at 9:10pm
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