sammychanforeve Triglot Groupie United States Joined 6066 days ago 43 posts - 51 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Japanese Studies: French
| Message 9 of 28 10 January 2009 at 8:13pm | IP Logged |
Marco,
Interesting post, great timing for me. I just read it now. I had this afternoon tried L-R for the first time (siomotteikiru's method, as I wanted to be open to try method somewhat counterintuitive to me as I am more of a "jump into natural listening" kind of gal) and as I was going through the process I did think that I might prefer to go through the texts together and then just listen, more along the lines of what you have done. I will be interested to hear of further progress. I am going to freestyle this weekend.
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MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6445 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish
| Message 10 of 28 11 January 2009 at 4:51am | IP Logged |
It's also very good to start with easier texts, and to review them when you have finished some more challenging ones. I felt obliged to tell all of you how powerful the parallel texts are.
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Cainntear Pentaglot Senior Member Scotland linguafrankly.blogsp Joined 6009 days ago 4399 posts - 7687 votes Speaks: Lowland Scots, English*, French, Spanish, Scottish Gaelic Studies: Catalan, Italian, German, Irish, Welsh
| Message 11 of 28 11 January 2009 at 7:18am | IP Logged |
Marco,
We need more information on how/when to use this "best method".
Is this how you start off? What level do you think you have to be before it's time to do this?
Have you done this with languages that are relatively distant from your native language (Serbian), or only ones that are reasonably closely related?
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MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6445 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish
| Message 12 of 28 11 January 2009 at 11:00am | IP Logged |
I started off with Russian and Polish. They are of the same family and group but not of the same branch (East and West Slavic). Serbian is a South Slavic language. Polish is far more distant than Russian for a Serb. I didn't know a word of Polish before I started learning. I tried to learn some German the same way and it was also OK. BUT: I realized there was no way for me to learn Hungarian until I learned some basic words and grammar.
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MarcoDiAngelo Tetraglot Senior Member Yugoslavia Joined 6445 days ago 208 posts - 345 votes Speaks: Serbian*, English, Spanish, Russian Studies: Thai, Polish
| Message 13 of 28 11 January 2009 at 11:06am | IP Logged |
After two chapters of a Hugarian book, I couldn't pick up ONE SINGLE WORD. :-) I presume the reason was unusual word order and distant grammar. I suppose if you know nothing of the target language's family or group, perhaps you should like to learn some basics.
Edited by MarcoDiAngelo on 11 January 2009 at 11:09am
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Alkeides Senior Member Bhutan Joined 6146 days ago 636 posts - 644 votes
| Message 14 of 28 11 January 2009 at 11:15am | IP Logged |
siomotteikiru has suggested that podcasts might actually be used in place of the 3-5 hour word-for-word parallel text for an unfamiliar language but he/she personally finds it boring.
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6437 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 15 of 28 11 January 2009 at 11:17am | IP Logged |
MarcoDiAngelo wrote:
After two chapters of a Hugarian book, I couldn't pick up ONE SINGLE WORD. :-) I presume the reason was unusual word order and distant grammar. I suppose if you know nothing of the target language's family or group, perhaps you should like to learn some basics. |
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Looks like I have something to try out next time wanderlust strikes...
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chelovek Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 6085 days ago 413 posts - 461 votes 5 sounds Speaks: English*, French Studies: Russian
| Message 16 of 28 12 January 2009 at 10:03am | IP Logged |
I don't really understand...how is this so different from the normal LR technique?
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