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| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5259 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 65 of 758 14 February 2012 at 2:28am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Aorist. The verbs ending in ე (sometimes with person/number endings like the one above) are aorist. It is used for commands.
Yep.
Yeah. Because you're saying "let's (we)..." You're referring to "us" not "you." Edited by zecchino1991 on 14 February 2012 at 2:30am 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 66 of 758 14 February 2012 at 3:11pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I've updated Anki and was planning on using it, but it is no longer supporting Georgian fonts. რა გავაკეთო, მეგობრებო?
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 67 of 758 15 February 2012 at 9:07pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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book2 22
მაგრამ ახლა აღარ ვეწევი. But I don't smoke anymore. I see no word for 'not' at this sentence. Does აღარ translate as 'not anymore'? Kiziria's 13 (I haven't skipped 12, just didn't have a specific doubt =D ) თქვენ ემილის წერილი გაუგზავნენ, არა? You sent a letter to Emily, didn't you? I see that წერილი is the object and is in the nominative. But then why does Emily take an extra -s? Shouldn't there be a postposition attached to Emily? ========= So, I finished Beginner's Georgian. I'm glad I've accomplished this task after so much uncertainty. I hope it at least took me from A1 to A2. I managed to learn the basics of the most used verbal tenses. I also got important vocabulary. Now, I should decide what to do. I'm tempted to start Aronson, for which I've done two lessons previously but had little clue what I was doing. This time I browsed its page and it started to make sense. Not to mention there are several translation exercises which work very well for me, since I'm used to learning languages through Assimil. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| TixhiiDon Tetraglot Senior Member Japan Joined 5465 days ago 772 posts - 1474 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese, German, Russian Studies: Georgian | Message 68 of 758 15 February 2012 at 10:21pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Yes, "not anymore" or "no longer".
Here, ემილის is the dative of ემილი. Since Emily is not a Georgian name, it is considered as a noun ending in a vowel, and therefore the ი is not removed in the dative. So, in the sentence, წერილი is the direct object in the nominative, and ემილის is the indirect object in the dative, meaning "to Emily". By the way, it should be გაუგზავნეთ. EDIT: I think I'm right in saying that this sentence could also mean "You sent Emily's letter to him, didn't you?", so it's an interesting example.
I think you will be surprised how clear Aronson seems to you now you've been through Kiziria. Definitely give him a try as the next step. Edited by TixhiiDon on 15 February 2012 at 10:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5259 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 69 of 758 15 February 2012 at 10:25pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I agree, I tried Aronson a while ago and thought it was very complicated. But once I went through Kiziria
again, it makes perfect sense. They complement each other very well! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Murdoc Triglot Senior Member Georgia Joined 5255 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: Georgian*, English, Russian | Message 70 of 758 16 February 2012 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
It could but, verb "გაუგზავნეთ" requires that there should be indirect object in the sentence to show who is the letter being sent to, like: "თქვენ მას ემილის წერილი გაუგზავნეთ, არა?" 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 71 of 758 23 February 2012 at 8:21pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I'm back from a short trip to Europe, and now it is time to go back to Georgian. I'm giving Aronson a go. Even though lessons are long, there are so many translating exercises that I think I will have enough practice.
Today's book2 was demanding. It was a lesson on speaking foreign languages. I didn't take notes not to get overwhelmed, but I'd return to it later. I read Aronson's lesson 02 but didn't start the exercises yet. It's clear now even though there are some details. I don't remember seeing the conditional at the Kiziria's book, only optative, but it is no big deal. I think I'm doing reverse exercises, that is, from English to Georgian, and not the way they are proposed. Will keep the Assimil approach. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 72 of 758 24 February 2012 at 7:22pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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One more lesson from book2. I'm having more difficulty following the lessons, as conversations get more complicated and I don't always manage to understand how sentences are formed.
As for Aronson's, I started doing exercises from Lesson 02 the reverse way, trying to translate English to Georgian. It's been a bit frustrating though, 'coz most of the times I don't know the vocabulary, and when I do, I'm still unsure about the word order. So, I end up looking up the Georgian text before I finish doing the translation mentally, and the exercise ends up as just a transcription exercise. I really miss a textbook like Kiziria's with a couple more lessons. I feel I was more motivated when I learned actual conversational sentences as I learned the grammar as well. I don't know what to do, maybe I should retake Hewitt's from where I stopped (lesson 4)? I would like to hear the advice from you guys experienced learners. Edited by Expugnator on 24 February 2012 at 7:29pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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