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| jondesousa Tetraglot Senior Member United States goo.gl/Zgg3nRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6058 days ago 227 posts - 297 votes  Speaks: English*, Portuguese, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Mandarin, Spanish | Message 25 of 71 14 January 2010 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | ||
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I have used several TYS courses and love them. I have used Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese, Italian, Improve Your Italian. I am looking forward to using French and German in the near future as well. I'd highly recommend them.
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| liddytime Pentaglot Senior Member United States mainlymagyar.wordpre Joined 6023 days ago 693 posts - 1328 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, Galician Studies: Hungarian, Vietnamese, Modern Hebrew, Norwegian, Persian, Arabic (Written) | Message 26 of 71 14 January 2010 at 7:41pm | IP Logged | ||
I agree! More audio, less English and more audio drills a-la FSI!!!!! With mp3's you should be able to get 24 hours of audio on a single disc ( see the Georgetown Arabic series) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Chris Heptaglot Senior Member Japan Joined 6915 days ago 287 posts - 452 votes Speaks: English*, Russian, Indonesian, French, Malay, Japanese, Spanish Studies: Dutch, Korean, Mongolian | Message 27 of 71 15 January 2010 at 6:25am | IP Logged | ||
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* I assume all TY programs have these two features?
Not necessarily. I depends on the author. Mine have translations, but the conversations, apart from in the introduction, move at a fair pace. As an author, you receive a brief for what a language title in the series aims to accomplish and work to create a course with that in mind. It seems to be up to the authors how they achieve this goal, which allows the freedom to adapt material and pedagogy to a particular language. * I tend to use the newer editions to break into the language if I have absolutely no grounding it, and then use the older versions, which are much more extensive. You have to remember that the TY series is ames, primarily, at non-linguists who want to get to grips with the conversational language in as rapid and as easy a way as possible. This, of course, doesn't mean that they are not suitable for language enthusiasts, or more seasoned or academic language learners, as a starting block. They aim to take the beginner to a certain level, and I think they do a very good job of that. For Indonesian or Malay, I recommend starting with TY, and then, after about 7 units, to start using the Colloquial series alongside. Colloquial takes the student further, in the long run, but a lot of the functional language tends to be neglected. This way, you get the best of both worlds. When I learn a new language, I buy several courses, as many others here do. You should see my Chinese collection! * It's printed like a paperback, so the paper has a cheap feel to it. The older ones with the pale blue covers were printed on cheap stock, it seems, but the last few generations have been of higher quality. The latest release, I am told, will be of a higher quality still. The thing is, for a complete, beginner's language course with 2 CDs, they are pretty good value. I don't know about the hiss, or the advert. It could be a feature of the US versions McGraw Hill publishes. The original UK editions are different, and come with CDs in jewel cases. I believe the plastic packs that the US versions come in can result in broken CDs! This has nothing to do with Teach Yourself! I believe the Russisn course is very good, although I haven't used it. * I have used several TYS courses and love them. I have used Portuguese, Brazilian Portuguese, Italian, Improve Your Italian. I am looking forward to using French and German in the near future as well. I'd highly recommend them. That's what I like to hear! * I agree! More audio, less English and more audio drills a-la FSI!!!!! With mp3's you should be able to get 24 hours of audio on a single disc ( see the Georgetown Arabic series) This comes down to costs again. The book/CD packs come at a vert reasonable price. If you wanted more audio, the price would increase considerably. Not everyone uses MP3s, so the courses would have to be available as CDs in store, and that would mean higher costs and fewer sales. To create more audio, authors would have to be commissioned to extend the material; editors would need to be hired to edit and proofread it, and actors would need to be hired to create the recordings, not to mention the sound engineers... All of this means extra costs, and in the end, it does come down to costs. Modern technology - MP3s, digitally delivered pdfs etc. - might make this possible in the future (but let me be clear here - I do NOT speak for Hodder as I do not work for them or know the ins and outs of the company), but for now, language-learning is still very much, first and foremost, a 'book and tape' market. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| goosefrabbas Triglot Pro Member United States Joined 6162 days ago 393 posts - 475 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish Studies: German, Italian Personal Language Map | Message 28 of 71 15 January 2010 at 7:08am | IP Logged | ||
This is a bit off topic, but do you know if Georgetown has any other published courses like this? I have the Modern Russian I book and audio but I can't find anything similar for other languages. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| darkwhispersdal Senior Member Wales Joined 5834 days ago 294 posts - 363 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Ancient Greek, French, Italian, Spanish, Russian, Mandarin, Japanese, Latin | Message 29 of 71 15 January 2010 at 3:37pm | IP Logged | ||
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The russian courses are good though I have problems with the beginners Turkish as I lost the book and the dialogue doesn't explain in English what some words mean enough. Once I get a new book it'll probably no longer be a problem.
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| Ulmo Diglot Newbie Joined 5880 days ago 20 posts - 22 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, English | Message 30 of 71 03 April 2010 at 9:24pm | IP Logged | ||
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News about the releasing of the new TY series?
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| Miznia Diglot Newbie United States Joined 5145 days ago 37 posts - 42 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Cantonese, Korean, Thai, Vietnamese | Message 31 of 71 03 April 2010 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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I couldn't wait until Sept for the new Vietnamese so I just bought the current one (despite the poor reviews)
I love Teach Yourself Cantonese, it was my main text starting out. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kerateo Triglot Senior Member Mexico Joined 5440 days ago 112 posts - 180 votes Speaks: Spanish*, English, French Studies: Italian | Message 32 of 71 03 April 2010 at 10:22pm | IP Logged | ||
I didn´t mean it as an offence, I just dont like the style, I'm sure that if you were entrusted to do Assimil Malay it would be great! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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