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Cabaire
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 Message 25 of 51
12 July 2011 at 10:15pm | IP Logged 
I would say, in зима морозная the adjective is predicative: The winter is frosty, but in морозная зима it is used attributively: the frosty winter.

Edited by Cabaire on 12 July 2011 at 10:16pm

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Radu-1987
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 Message 26 of 51
13 July 2011 at 2:42pm | IP Logged 
Cheers for that. However, I found another example which I am not sure whether the rule you mentioned above are applicable?

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Цветёт земля чудесная,
и ей мы говорим,
что Родину Советскую
за всё благодарим.

Мы сильные, здоровье,
нам всех привольней жить,
идём мы в школы новые
учиться и дружить.

И станут нам известными
все горы и моря,
мы школьники советские
с начала сентября.
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Mrs. Dalloway
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 Message 27 of 51
13 July 2011 at 3:11pm | IP Logged 
I wanted to write something, but then thought I'd live it to the native speakers.
I feel the right to enjoy the discussion, now :)

The position of the adjective in Russian is not fixed, it can be put before as well as after the noun to which is referred.

The only thing is: if the whole sentence is "школы новые", that will be translated as "Schools are new" (Even if it should be written as "школы - новые")
But here we have a sentence where школы новые is only a part of the speech, in this case, the place to which we are going "идём мы в школы новые", so here новые is an attribute, as Cabaire said.

Russian language leaves a lot of freedom as for the order of the words in a sentence, and, expecially in riddles or songs, they're much more mixed than during a speech, to keep the rhytm and make it sound beautiful. That happens more often in Russian than any of the languages I know, actually.

Edited by Mrs. Dalloway on 13 July 2011 at 3:13pm

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 Message 28 of 51
04 September 2011 at 2:28pm | IP Logged 
Another question related to instrumental case.

What is the difference between those two sentences below and why does latter use
instrumental and former not?

- Древние славяне были язычники.

- В древности славяне были язычниками.
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Марк
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 Message 29 of 51
04 September 2011 at 3:17pm | IP Logged 
Mrs.Dalloway is absolutely right.(Школы новые is written without a hyphen. A hyphen is
put only between two nouns, numbers or infinitives or any mixture of them: Семь -
нечётное число Seven is an odd number).
In oral speech the relationship between words is expressed by intonation.
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 Message 30 of 51
04 September 2011 at 3:19pm | IP Logged 
Radu-1987 wrote:
Another question related to instrumental case.

What is the difference between those two sentences below and why does latter use
instrumental and former not?

- Древние славяне были язычники.

- В древности славяне были язычниками.

No difference. Both are correct.
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 Message 31 of 51
04 September 2011 at 4:36pm | IP Logged 
Can reverse of those also be correct, shown as below?

- Древние славяне были язычниками.

- В древности славяне были язычники.


Edited by Radu-1987 on 04 September 2011 at 4:38pm

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 Message 32 of 51
04 September 2011 at 5:09pm | IP Logged 
Radu-1987 wrote:
Can reverse of those also be correct, shown as below?

- Древние славяне были язычниками.

- В древности славяне были язычники.

Да.


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