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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5045 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes  Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 9 of 107 24 December 2011 at 8:29am | IP Logged |
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In the middle of a lesson, my tones are great. When I leave the lesson to talk to use
the words on skype, my tones are horrible and completely unlike that of the ones I use when following Assimil. This Sinosplice article describes where I'm at in the tone learning process (the 3-Second memory stage)... The Process Of Learning Tones On the bright side, when my language exchange partners use words that I've covered in Assimil, I can hear and understand them. That makes me feel pretty good. Finished lesson 25 today. Edited by BobbyE on 24 December 2011 at 8:31am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| ReQuest Tetraglot Senior Member Netherlands Joined 4830 days ago 200 posts - 228 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, German, French Studies: Spanish | Message 10 of 107 24 December 2011 at 8:46am | IP Logged |
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How do you do/go through a lesson?
Are you shadowing the lesson? Or something entirely different? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5045 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 11 of 107 29 December 2011 at 12:26am | IP Logged |
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I am listening to the lesson either once, or many many times before I actually look at
it in the book. Then I listen to it while reading the English to get the jist of the dialogue. Then I listen and read the pinyin, focusing on becoming familiar with the new words and tones. Then I turn off the audio, and read the pinyin while looking at the English to understand the words and sentences. Once I understand the words. I go back to the audio and try to listen and understand it without reading anything, if I totally forgot the meaning of a word or sentence, I'll go back to the book. Then I'll play the audio sentence-by-sentence, pausing to repeat it correctly, and playing each sentence and repeating as many times as it takes to get the words and intonation right. When I feel like I've done a good amount of practice with that, I'll go back and look at the notes and do the exercises. The next day I review that lesson relentlessly, both listening and doing repetition. I'm heavy on listening because I resent my poor listening skills in Spanish. 5 persons have voted this message useful | |
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5045 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 12 of 107 31 December 2011 at 3:09am | IP Logged |
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Tomorrow I am done with the 3rd out of 4 CD's of volume 1, and I realized how fast this
past month has flown by. Today I reviewed lessons 1-14, I'll review lessons 15-31 tomorrow. I was happy that between 1-14, I understand all of the dialogues and exercises, first try and at the pace of the CD without pausing. I was really happy about that. Lesson 32 starts today. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5045 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 13 of 107 04 January 2012 at 3:22am | IP Logged |
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Lesson 37 kicked my ass. I really struggled with listening. Also, the relative clause
was introduced, which is completely opposite of English grammar, but I didn't feel like that was very tough, it was just listening comprehension that I had a hard time with. This lesson made me question how important it is for me to be able to listen to a lesson with near flawless comprehension. Of course, as it is, tomorrow I will likely revisit this lesson and my ear will have opened up and my comprehension will have improved. Also, my friend's Assimil Chinese With Ease is arriving today or tomorrow, it's going to be awesome having a friend to work with. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 newyorkeric Diglot Moderator Singapore Joined 6177 days ago 1598 posts - 2174 votes Speaks: English*, Italian Studies: Mandarin, Malay Personal Language Map | Message 14 of 107 04 January 2012 at 4:47am | IP Logged |
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It looks like you making good progress but the lessons get a lot harder after lesson 35. It will take a LOT of repeated listening if you want to be able to understand every word.
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| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5045 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 15 of 107 05 January 2012 at 6:55pm | IP Logged |
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thanks Eric, I'll keep that in mind. What do you think is the most important thing to
focus on in the passive phase? 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| BobbyE Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5045 days ago 226 posts - 331 votes Speaks: English*, Mandarin | Message 16 of 107 05 January 2012 at 7:31pm | IP Logged |
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I start taking Mandarin 101 at college on Monday. I'd rather do it all with self-study,
but I need to take care of my college foreign language requirements to get a degree. The teacher has amazing reviews, and I'm happy to know that even though she's teaching at my community college, she's also the teacher at the university. She is a native Mandarin speaker and I have a suspicion that she's a Taiwan native, which was confirmed when I discovered that she's teaching Traditional Hanzi in class. I am actually really happy about this because I'll be studying Simplified Hanzi at home with Assimil. Also, we are using the Integrated Chinese textbook, ed.3, which people seem to enjoy, but most importantly there is a Integrated Chinese workbook for writing both Simplified and Traditional Hanzi. I think this should be a good way for me to review both forms of writing once I'm at a more proficient level. Also, this allows me to use the NPCR series for my self study. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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