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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 81 of 96
29 November 2012 at 7:20am | IP Logged 
Hey, not fair! You wet my appetite with the promise of an update, and now I see none :-). And as Tarvos said:
we really need you for the Skype session - how will we do without our Team Sputnik Skype muse?
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Tecktight
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 Message 82 of 96
03 December 2012 at 11:31am | IP Logged 
Hi, hi!!!

Okay, here I am! I've finally come out of my hole!

The past few months have been a total whirlwind, as I said. I've experienced so many new things and underwent
many changes. During/since leaving Moscow, I went through lots of anxiety, and, consequently, sank into a
deeper depression. In Berlin, I found myself missing so many classes, not practicing German, being scared to do
basic tasks for no particular reason, breaking down into crying fits at random intervals. Then, to top it off, I
wasn't/am not getting sleep because I was going out to clubs WAY too often in an effort to drink/dance away my
issues, which, of course didn't work. It just made me tired and sick, to the point where I had mild pneumonia in
November for three weeks (but I still didn't learn my lesson, I guess). Disorganization and confusion has ruled me
for too long.

I guess I denied my problem to myself for a long time, but I think I'm finally progressing. Last week, I finally
confessed to my academic director what I've been feeling, and we made some arrangements for counseling. On
Friday, I saw a therapist for the first time. She just gathered some basic info about me, but I really like her and
think she'll be able to help me sort out things. I think the future looks more positive.

So, that said, I think I'm ready to get back to my normal life. To re-ignite the passions that somehow blew out,
and HTAL is definitely one of those.

Edited by Tecktight on 03 December 2012 at 11:33am

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tarvos
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 Message 83 of 96
03 December 2012 at 11:38am | IP Logged 
Aww, that's awful. Don't feel pressured, take your time and come back stronger!

We're still missing you!


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Tecktight
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 Message 84 of 96
03 December 2012 at 11:45am | IP Logged 

Despite whatever else I’ve been going through, I love Berlin.
It’s definitely my favorite place that I’ve lived in so far. I love the freedom of it. No one judges based on age or
appearance, and what you do is more or less your own business, unless it’s hurting someone else. It’s a
refreshing change from D.C., where you essentially get dirty looks if you’re not boring and wearing a suit. Still,
Germans are rather difficult to make friends with, since they’re more cautious and most I’ve met have already
been established in Berlin for a few years and consequently have already built a friend circle which they aren’t
eager to breach with a new face. All the same, I’ve made a handful of German friends, but most of my friends are
other foreigners. For some reason, I seem to have a magnetic connection to Spaniards. Granted, there are many
here, but literally wherever I go I meet some. It’s become rather a joke amongst my friends.

Berlin is also an odd sort of Twilight zone. It’s not proper Germany—in fact, I don’t feel that it’s ‘German,’ at all.
It’s the biggest melting pot I’ve ever been in. Perhaps New York or London could compare, but I wouldn’t know.
Time is really not a proper concept here. I feel like this city is full of young people who came here to ‘find
themselves’ or ‘find art’ or what have you, but, in reality, don’t know what they’re doing. There is too much
partying, every single day, for hours and hours. Things don’t end at night, but in the morning. It’s difficult to find
motivation to do concrete things. Concepts like having a career, settling in somewhere, starting a family, and so
on, are not things usually discussed or on people’s minds. Everyone and everything sort of just floats around.
Therefore, I feel like I’m not living real life.

So, that said, I don’t know if I’d be able to live in Berlin the rest of my life. But I’ve definitely found my home in
Europe—where exactly in Europe remains to be seen, but I’ve got time to think about it. We’ll see where graduate
school takes me in 1.5 years from now.

To be honest, my German hasn’t improved much, but this is my fault. I haven’t been actively studying it, at all. If I
had the energy to just take even 30 minutes a day to review grammar and vocabulary and such, my German
would be light-years from where it is now. Still, I’ve seen some progress, just by virtue of passive absorption. My
level of understanding is pretty high, but speaking is still low (though I guess that’s how it always works). I can
understand what’s going on in all my classes (which are all in German) but I generally sit silently in the back. I do
love all my professors though, and the subjects are pretty interesting. Next semester should be even better,
though, because I’ll be taken every one of my classes at the university, Humboldt. So that’ll be five or six. I love
Humboldt classes because they’re a real mixed bag—particularly in the politics courses, there are many Erasmus
students, and, as a language-lover, I love an international crowd! Everyone is so interesting to talk to. ☺

What I am happy about in terms of my German, though, is that I’ve picked up on the colloquial phrases like “mal,”
“doch,” “ach so,” “na, ja,” “nie” etc. etc. Just things that make one sound more ‘native.’

I’m currently renting a room, but I’m on the search for my own apartment. I hope to find one in Kreuzberg or
Friedrichshain and so escape the abundance of hipsters where I currently live. Then again, it’s impossible to fully
escape hipsters here in Berlin…

It will soon be my Christmas break, and I plan not to return to the U.S. at all but to visit my mother in Moscow,
instead. I’m still working on my visa, though, which, as we all know, is a task. It’d be easier if I weren’t seeking a
year-long, multi-entry visa, of course. I’m getting rather worried about it, because I hope it will process in time. I
haven’t even gone to the consulate, yet, though I do have (finally!) all my materials together.

EDIT: Edited! :)

Edited by Tecktight on 03 December 2012 at 5:04pm

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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 85 of 96
03 December 2012 at 6:34pm | IP Logged 
I am sorry that you have had a hard time, but I know you will pull through. And don't worry about having been
a bit unproductive for a few months. I once dropped out of my studies after 2 years and a half with nothing to
show for it but an insanely large student loan. I felt like I had flushed 2 years and a half down the toilet and
like a complete failure. That was however my best decision ever, and I have even managed to cover it up on
my CV. So a couple of months of taking it slowly is not something you should let get to you. Remember, you
are the muse and mascot of team Sputnik, and is probably the one that has made most progress in Russian!
We miss you, and love you, and we are there for you every step of the way.

I think that in your shoes I would have tried to go for more fun in my language learning instead of beating
myself up over not studying more grammar. Watch fun TV- shows or read crime novels, or Greek mythology
or whatever you fancy. When you look for an apartment see if you can find one that you can share with some
really cool Germans, and the very best option: See if you find a cute German boyfriend. And don't
underestimate the parties you go to. I have learned at least 10% of my Spanish in discos.

Fun is underrated in language learning.
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tarvos
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 Message 86 of 96
03 December 2012 at 6:48pm | IP Logged 
What's wrong with hipsters? ;))))
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 Message 87 of 96
04 December 2012 at 6:09pm | IP Logged 
@Tarvos, do you really want somebody to respond? ;)))

@Cristina I have a somewhat different take on 'fun' in language learning. It's overrated, for if learning a language is not fun enough in itself, why do you do it? And if learning the language is fun, and doing something detracts from it, why do you keep doing it? Seriously, if 'adding fun' to it really makes a difference, maybe you chose the wrong thing in the first place ;)

Which leads me to the part of Teckight's update I wanted to comment on...

Tecktight wrote:
I feel like this city is full of young people who [...] in reality, don’t know what they’re doing. There is too much partying, every single day, for hours and hours. Things don’t end at night, but in the morning. It’s difficult to find motivation to do concrete things. Concepts like having a career, settling in somewhere, starting a family, and so on, are not things usually discussed or on people’s minds. Everyone and everything sort of just floats around. Therefore, I feel like I’m not living real life.


You described perfectly what surrounded me after my real friends here left and I was left 'alone' in the city. I let the 'party' routine get on me like some kind of mind-numbing fog, and I spent years in a zombie-like state before I snapped out of it (it wasn't even really fun). Now I am happily detoxified and I think about more adult stuff but I won't have that time back... Moral of the story? It has happened to others, so keep an eye open and try not to let it happen to you too :)
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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 88 of 96
05 December 2012 at 2:13pm | IP Logged 
@mrwarper: Fun is an individual concept. My colleague reads grammars of Old English for fun, I read crime novels for fun, or go on dates with hot Spanish guys. It doesn't mean you must have a smile on your face every time you study, but that you must find something which you like.

The reason why I never get anywhere with my German, is that I had a hag of a German teacher who took all the fun out of studying by making us go over grammar rules until we cried. And all the fun stuff I could do in German cannot get that teacher and the stupid rules out of my head. In French I had this really cool teacher who let us do songs, and hoarsed around with the texts, and made us want to learn French. Which we did.



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