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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4496 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 17 of 51 17 April 2012 at 11:17pm | IP Logged |
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Actually, JKerouac, je voudrais IS the conditional and je voudrai is the futur. Je voudrais is one expression that I know is correct when I see it, and my French is pretty hopeless as a rule, haha...
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| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4413 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 18 of 51 18 April 2012 at 12:45am | IP Logged |
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Oh that makes me feel good because I thought it was right. If michel thomas has taught me one thing, it was je
voudrais. I'm starting to think I should be introducing some grammar now. I have a grammar book, but I think I need to be about an A2 to use it. Well, maybe. I'm not really an expert on the levels, but it seems to be for Advanced Beginner onwards. I may have a crack at looking through it on the weekend. In the meantime I may use the about.com french language section for some verb lessons. The french language section on the site seems to be quite good, and I've used it quite a bit in the past. Is this a fruitless attempt? 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4798 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 19 of 51 18 April 2012 at 1:12pm | IP Logged |
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It is surely not fruitless. Actually, I believe you could use your grammar book even
now. The grammar terms are repeating a lot, so you'll soon know them well enough. And as a beginner, you can just pick the things you are interested in. I'd say most of the higher level recommendation is just meant to not scare beginners off :-) As long as you don't try to digest it all at once, you shouldn't bee to overwhelmed. When it comes to the internet resources, some are good but there are mistakes in many of them, so it may be a ood idea to check your findings with the grammar book. And how is your listening going on? Still have time for Buffy? I wish the French library here had some series on DVDs (they mostly specialize in "higher quality" French movies). It is hard to find them on the internet these days and they are too expensive. Even when I have a DVD with a film, there is usually the original (usually English), Czech and a language or two I don't need now and probably never won't (such as Hungarian) :-( 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4413 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 20 of 51 18 April 2012 at 2:25pm | IP Logged |
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Awesome. I'll check out the book next week.
Unfortunately, life is super hectic right now, and i know that doesn't mean i should stop my french, but i'm trying to focus on my actual studies. Tomorrow I have an exam for 40% of my grade in one subject, so I've been working on that the past few days after hyperfocussing on french for the past month. Next week i have two huge assignments due on monday and tuesday, so until then i'm trying to avoid as much french as possible. I'm happy to report that it is absolutely killing me! I haven't listened to any buffy for some time, but I did watch some Ally Mcbeal the other day. First with English and french subtitles, and I found that I could understand a great deal. I then put it in french with English subtitles, but didn't like that, so changed to french subtitles with french audio. I understood less then, but I was catching stuff I understood. When I went grocery shopping the other day I saw 'The Big Bang Theory' DVDs were only $25 per season. I have all these on my computer already, but the DVDs would allow me to use subtitles. I'm actually finding that there are MANY dvds that don't have French subtitles, but many other languages, including Finnish. I'm finding that rather strange as I would have expected French to be subbed on many. Anyway Big Bang theory season 1 did not have french audio or subs, but season 2 and 3 did and it took a great deal of restraint to avoid buying them. I figure that something like that may be too difficult at this juncture, but I like the idea of watchign a sitcom to start with... it takes alot of concentration to pay attention for a whole 40minutes at the moment! I've been continuing watering my plants in my memrise garden, but with the amount of study I have for my university stuff right now (thanks to my bright idea of doing a time-heavy extra curricular competition... not a good idea) I haven't been reviewing what is in my greenhouse. I know that probably isn't the brightest idea, but at least this way I won't have so many plants wilting. Once I get through the next week I'm going to be fine. I have to join a real library. i've seen that they have a bit in french... i think i saw on the website that they have pimsleur!!! it would be amazing if they did! Alternatively i could join alliance francaises. It's $50, which as a student is expensive, but i suppose that is less than gym membership for a month. They seem to have a big libarary of french stuff. Have you had any luck with just normal dvds that have french subbing or dubbing? Although I wouldn't be hugely surprised if you struggled. I swear i thought i always used to see french on them, but apparently not. I MUST grab my dvd collection next time i'm home so i can go through and find french stuff for the super challenge. Woo weeee i've been writing for ages! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Cavesa Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 4798 days ago 3277 posts - 6779 votes Speaks: Czech*, FrenchC2, EnglishC1 Studies: Spanish, German, Italian | Message 21 of 51 18 April 2012 at 4:40pm | IP Logged |
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Subtitles are easy to find for what you have in computer, no need to buy DVD for that.
if you use bsplayer, you can easily find subtitles in many languages (even though most of Torchwood doesn't have French subtitles in their subtitle storages. But they have Spanish...), you'll get to it through the right click. Or it is easy to google French sites with soutitres. The dubbing is more difficult to find. The library of the French Institut is an obvious choice where to look for such things but they don't get the serials. They have limited money to spend on dvds, so they prefer to put in more "culturally valuable" stuff, I guess. But, as an old member, who has already paid quite a lot of late-return-money despite their lenient rules, I am going to write down all the things I miss and want soon, and send it their proposals email :-) 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4413 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 22 of 51 19 April 2012 at 10:19am | IP Logged |
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Oh yes, I forgot about finding subtitles online. I'll have to do that for things have on my computer. Of course,
I'm wanting to listen to as much French as possible, so I've just bought How I Met Your Mother on DVD. It has french subs and audio, so that's good. From now on though, I'm refusing to buy DVDs that only have English, just on principal. I mean, I want to learn more than just French, and by having a collection of languages on my DVDs I'll be doing much better when it does come time to learn something new. I joined the city library today. I've been a member of my library back home my whole life, but until this year I have not had proof of address until now (3 years in the making). As we speak, I'm listening to How I met your mother in french and i'm beginning to be able to distinguish the characters voices. I swear they all even sound similar to their English counterparts. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5321 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 23 of 51 19 April 2012 at 1:27pm | IP Logged |
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I really like french.about.com, too. There's a lot of good information there, and the
explanations are pretty clear. As for grammar books, some really amazing polyglots around here (such as Iverson) skim through them as soon as they start to study, and try to get an overview of the most important grammar rules (but not the exceptions). This gives him a nice map of the terrain ahead. After that, I think he tries to learn the most important regular rules, and holds off on the irregular stuff until after he's done a fair bit of reading. But as for me, I don't like too much stress, so I prefer to absorb the language for a while, and not worry too much about (say) the 5 most common groups of irregular -re verbs. It's totally possible to have awesome, hour-long conversations in French without knowing all those rules by heart. So it's totally up to you. :-) If you find the grammar books helpful and interesting, dive right in. But if you're all, "Argh! This is way too complicated right now!", then it's OK to go do fun stuff with your French. Your brain is naturally good at languages, and it will figure out all kinds of grammar if you give it enough examples. Bon courage ! Edited by emk on 19 April 2012 at 1:30pm 3 persons have voted this message useful | |
| sctroyenne Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5180 days ago 739 posts - 1312 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Spanish, Irish | Message 24 of 51 20 April 2012 at 1:42am | IP Logged |
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Consider checking out amazon.fr for tv series on dvd with French dubbing. They often have sales that
make it worth it. They might actually still be doing their 100€ worth for 50€ sale which they run regularly. I got How I Met Your Mother, Veronica Mars and Chuck (which is one of the few I've found to have subs that almost match the dubbing) through them. You can watch region 2 dvds through VLC Player or you can get a region free player or try to hack your current one. 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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