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pigsonfire
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 Message 81 of 129
16 August 2012 at 2:47am | IP Logged 
Is there a link clearly communicating EXACTLY how to do Assimil?
The books dont explain it very clearly.
Thanks!

Edited by pigsonfire on 16 August 2012 at 2:47am
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kanewai
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 Message 82 of 129
16 August 2012 at 3:07am | IP Logged 
Here are the instructions I have, which are adapted from the Dutch ones that
Language
Geek posted. I'm sure we'll be posting this again!

Assimil Passive

1. Listen to the text with the book closed.
2. Listen to the recording while looking at the English translation.
3. Read the Target Language (TL) text aloud. Be sure you understand the meaning
of each sentence.
4. Now read the TL text without looking at the translation.
5. Listen to the recording twice, once while looking at the English translation,
and once while looking at the TL text.
6. Listen to the recording with the book closed. At this point you should
understand what is being said
7.Listen to the recording once more. Stop the machine after each sentence, and
try to repeat it aloud.
8. Carefully read the comments several times. Examine the English sentences being
explained.
9. Read the exercises. Repeat each sentence several times.
10. Examine the examples of sentence structure.

Active

1. Read the lesson, the listen to the recordings.
2. Cover the TL text and try to reconstruct it, looking only at the English sentences.
Make an effort to do this both orally and in writing.
3. Uncover the TL text and correct any errors you have made.

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Solfrid Cristin
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 Message 83 of 129
16 August 2012 at 6:08am | IP Logged 
Oops. This sounds like it is more adapted to an old fashioned cassette player than to an iPod. Repeating
individual lessons is tough enough. Repeating individual sentences, I do not even know how to do on a CD
player.

Are you sure that the method does not entail actually doing the exercises and learning the vocabulary in the
passive wave?

You really gave me food for thought here.

And is it feasible to do all this in 30 minutes?

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 16 August 2012 at 6:09am
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dbag
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 Message 84 of 129
16 August 2012 at 7:48am | IP Logged 
vermillon wrote:
dbag wrote:

after reading of Fanatics experiences with "German without Toil".

Could you provide some link to what you're talking about? I don't think I've read about
that before...


Here you go, a long thread (Fanatic's
posts start about 2 pages in) which to my mind represents the very best the forum has
to offer. Enjoy!

As a side note- wouldn't it be great if Fanatic got on board with this challenge?
Assimil
vs U.S language programs

P.s sorry if this formats in a strange way, its not easy to provide links from the
tablet I'm using.

Edited by dbag on 16 August 2012 at 7:54am
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Mani
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 Message 85 of 129
16 August 2012 at 8:04am | IP Logged 
Jinx wrote:
Vaguely related question: does anyone know if the German-based Norwegian Assimil is only available as a CD-ROM? I did some Googling and that's all I see – no normal book-and-audio set. This is irritating, because I wanted to get that course and study from a German base, but I have a Mac and am not set up to use Windows-based software.


There definitely should be the normal book-and-audio set for the German based Norwegian course, at least they say so on the Assimil homepage.
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vermillon
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 Message 86 of 129
16 August 2012 at 9:56am | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
And is it feasible to do all this in 30 minutes?


I'll touch the topic in my log (to come in a few days), but the time it takes to do the lessons varies from 10-15mn to 35-40 minutes depending on the language... For Polish, there's absolutely nothing I can do to spend more than 15mn on each lesson... apart perhaps from copying the text, listening to it 10 times more, but the dialogs are so short that I wonder how it could lead me to B2, or be the same price as courses where there is twice as much content... While for Norwegian, I need a 25-30mmn a day and I could probably spend more time, but I choose to trust the method and see where it can get me following the instructions.


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 Message 87 of 129
16 August 2012 at 10:36am | IP Logged 
If this helps, I know at least one success story with Assimil Polish :-) I don't think ANYONE ever claimed to have reached B2 solely by using Assimil, though.

I'm going to do this course myself as well, even if my level is kinda too good for it.
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Serpent
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 Message 88 of 129
16 August 2012 at 10:38am | IP Logged 
Solfrid Cristin wrote:
Oops. This sounds like it is more adapted to an old fashioned cassette player than to an iPod. Repeating
individual lessons is tough enough. Repeating individual sentences, I do not even know how to do on a CD
player.

Are you sure that the method does not entail actually doing the exercises and learning the vocabulary in the
passive wave?

You really gave me food for thought here.

And is it feasible to do all this in 30 minutes?
There's the pause button :) I'll just shadow the sentences instead though.

Why would the PASSIVE wave include doing the exercises? After so many repetitions sure you should understand the words passively? I'm surprised it even includes translating not just the exercise but also the lesson.


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