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| kixi Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4139 days ago 40 posts - 40 votes Studies: Japanese | Message 17 of 41 27 March 2013 at 6:48am | IP Logged | ||
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You're more advanced than I, so even watching/ listening to shows with the jpn subs, I
still find it difficult to pick out individual words. Then to understand the word or to guess at it when your vocab is very beginner (a few hundred words)... Well let's just say it's ambitious and serves no greater purpose atm than immersion background noise. Soon though. Ahh well at first I was going to take contemporary fiction or tv/movie 2000 top lists, adding the japanese equivalent to the list by using dictionary. Then I realised the pitfalls, such as not every word having a clear but translation. It would make for a much bigger project than intended. I had saved the list some time back just as a useful vocab list not really knowing about it. I did some reading about the guy the other day and thought it'd be pretty cool and simple to complete the list and then as I go along I can learn other languages and put the lists side by side. Idk maybe that's lame, but hey either way it's a bitesize 200 vocab list to learn :D I suppose the best thing is to acquire a top jpn frequency list, then work my way through translating each word to English, in the process memorizing them. That may take some severe googling to find. Edited by kixi on 27 March 2013 at 6:51am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kixi Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4139 days ago 40 posts - 40 votes Studies: Japanese | Message 18 of 41 27 March 2013 at 11:31pm | IP Logged | ||
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So I searched all day while I was ill and interneting and I now have a collection of
cheat sheets and vocab lists covering every which method I should want to learn. When I have link privileges I shall fix up all the links and add links for stuff I've recently found... Including this jpn frequency list http://www.offbeatband.com/2010/12/the-most- commonly-used-japanese-words-by-frequency/ I've resumed RTK and have my last exam tomorrow (really will be the last!!!), followed by term break. With every needed resource now either downloaded or bookmarked, future posting will be sporadic as it's just a case of knuckling down and doing. So yeah, if I don't update this log for a month, it's not because i burnt out and gave up. Good luck Hasi and everyone else <3 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kixi Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4139 days ago 40 posts - 40 votes Studies: Japanese | Message 19 of 41 05 April 2013 at 7:23am | IP Logged | ||
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Hey quick update:
I've stuck to the vocab lists, at the moment I'm half way through the e-language school vocab list (i posted address on first page of this log). It's a 1000 or 2000 words and I'm getting through them rather quickly with great recall using the blocks of 5-7 method. Then I shall do a couple hundred frequency, then after that go along and learn remaining vocab from genki or whatever. Found this amazing awesome total lifesaver application for frequency and vocab resource 'cbJisho' http://forum.koohii.com/viewtopic.php?id=7375&p=1 Due to the speed of vocab, I'm feeling quite motivated and less intimidated. I might attempt reading furigana blogs or something. Passed the 700 mark with rtk, really sick of it now! I'd like to be able to use these darned things already, but hey, finish what you start! Another thing, I'm no longer going to Paris, instead I'm going to Barcelona. I was planning to start Spanish when I eventually move to Texas in July-ish (whenever the visa comes). I'm tempted to earn some now. My language plans go like this: Japanese~ always wanted to learn, love the makeup, culture, cinema etc. Fiance going there for work at the end of the year. French~ have 'gcse' level, didn't enjoy it as a young teen but really enjoy the language now. Love french cinema, plan to holiday there frequently... It's just so chic to know french! I was jumping at the chance to continue with it when I thought I was going there. I think I want to learn this more than japanese but theres no reason to. B1 but forgotten level? Spanish~ zero experience in it. My fiance is hispanic, his family too, some of them only speak Spanish. A lot of jobs in the city I'm moving ask for ability to speak it. No previous desire to learn it except while watching Gael Garcia Bernal movies. I'm not intimidated by it in the slightest, looking over grammar rules word order etc, it seems straight forward to me, perhaps because I've done some french and German. I'm reluctant to start leaning it after having a few half started languages even though it's the most useful to me and the one I'll need to know soonest. Oh and the fact I'm going to Barcelona in a month or so. Finnish~ eh, the only time I'd ever use this is at sports meetups, it has zero use beyond that. For me it's a hobby language that shall be on a pile till a later date (perhaps years from now). I only did a year of 1x per week classes, ended up around A2. German~ Again no real immediate use to me. I know 1 German person, who I never see. I was pretty good at this one but it remains on the pile. B1 maybe? Afrikaans~ My family are from south africa, half of them speak it as a their first language. It seems easy to me from the little I know. I'd like to know this one for obvious reasons but since I wont be seeing family until at least next year, there's no rush on this... One day! Eugh from typing this up I can see that Spanish is the most rational language to focus on, for both short and long term. I wont ditch Japanese. For the moment I have no commitments due to moving countries and sitting around waiting for visa. Time isn't really an issue if I were to do both. Guess I'm doing both! Might leave it a few days till ive got these lists out the way. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kixi Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4139 days ago 40 posts - 40 votes Studies: Japanese | Message 20 of 41 05 April 2013 at 7:43am | IP Logged | ||
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Oh Oh I could totally be one of those people that learn little bits of a bunch of
languages at this rate! Is there a term for that? Like 'demi-polyglot'? :D I can say a bunch of phrases in Russian, i'll add that too! Haha no, from now on I shall pretend I never studied those in school and extracurricular. The only languages that exist are Japanese and Spanish. Seriously would have much preferred Japanese and French, I feel that just a few months of french would have had me up and talking. The motivation from that would have been colossal. Edited by kixi on 05 April 2013 at 7:43am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| kujichagulia Senior Member Japan Joined 4641 days ago 1031 posts - 1571 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Portuguese | Message 21 of 41 05 April 2013 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | ||
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What kind of sports meetups do you do where you would need to know some Finnish? Do you play ice hockey?
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| kixi Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4139 days ago 40 posts - 40 votes Studies: Japanese | Message 22 of 41 05 April 2013 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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I lift weights and do tricking, which is just like kick flips and stuff. At the meets for
both there are a few Finnish people, but I probably wouldnt meet any for a year anyway and it's a thin reason to resurrect a language. I really have no reason to study it and was scraping the barrel there. I started it when I was 16 because my friend wanted me to go with and also there were formula 1 drivers I liked who were Finnish. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| g-bod Diglot Senior Member United KingdomRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5776 days ago 1485 posts - 2002 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: French, German | Message 23 of 41 05 April 2013 at 7:46pm | IP Logged | ||
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It looks like Spanish is your most sensible option right now, doesn't it? I wouldn't worry about all the other half started languages - they'll still be waiting for you once you've done what you need to do with Spanish.
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| kixi Groupie United Kingdom Joined 4139 days ago 40 posts - 40 votes Studies: Japanese | Message 24 of 41 07 April 2013 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | ||
Yeah, it really is, pretty sure it'll be a breeze compared to Japanese. I've made a big deal over the past year of life, to finish what I start... Obviously I don't have to start Spanish like there's a gun to my head but it's def the smartest option compared to completing french asap. Also thanks guys for making me feel like i'm not an impulsive fool on this! Oh hey, so today I think I might complete the first of my Japanese vocab list projects (all of level 1 vocab from e-languageschool). Then I shall compile an anki deck that goes from eng to jpn, since I learnt them jpn to eng. Then through the next week or 2 I shall review those and slowly learn the lesson 2 vocab etc. I also wanted to at least do the 100 most frequent (its in kana and kanji) at the very least but I'm aware that I'll be cramming Spanish vocab prior to my trip so Idk if i should hold off on some of these lists till afterwards. Or cram them both! Some great progress is that I attempted zettai kareshi again and I understood a few things!!! Some things I didn't understand but was able to pick out the word and remember in class we had gone over it. It's great to see actual progress, gosh how motivating! 1 person has voted this message useful |
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