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| MeshGearFox Senior Member United States Joined 6489 days ago 316 posts - 344 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: German, Russian | Message 41 of 195 08 April 2007 at 12:09am | IP Logged | ||
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Hm. Well, I propose this: See how well you can read wikipedia articles in your intended language, looking up unknown words in a dictionary, and then gauging how well you feel you know it.
Or pick a standard source material that's in a lot of languages I guess. It's not a matter of proving that you know the stuff though. I don't think anyone here is going to LIE. Just say you feel you did well or not. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6241 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 42 of 195 08 April 2007 at 12:25am | IP Logged | ||
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Read Japanese after 6 weeks w/ 30 min lessons? :) Um, are there any Wikipedia articles in Islenska?
http://www.ismal.hi.is/malsten.htm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Ari Heptaglot Senior Member Norway Joined 6376 days ago 2314 posts - 5695 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Cantonese Studies: Czech, Latin, German | Message 43 of 195 08 April 2007 at 1:32am | IP Logged | ||
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The problem is, of course, that any method of judging progress will show bias towards some methods of learning. I mean, try reading Wikipedia articles after 42 lessons of Pimsleur Japanese! If Wikipedia is the judging criterion, the best method would probably be something like cramming vocab from word frequency lists for the first three weeks, intense grammar studies for the next two, and then reading Wikipedia articles for the final week. This method would, on the other hand, not get you that far in speaking with a native, since you'll do neither pronounciation nor listening comprehension (seeing as there's no need of it for reading Wikipedia articles, all such efforts would be useless).
//Ari, tempted, but yet undecided. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Clintaroo Diglot Senior Member Australia Joined 6665 days ago 189 posts - 201 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Tagalog, Indonesian | Message 44 of 195 08 April 2007 at 5:30am | IP Logged | ||
Very true. I don't think the Wikipedia idea would work, especially if one is taking Mandarin or Japanese. I am a 'maybe'. If I was going to take anything it would probably be Indonesian, but I'm afraid it will interfere with Filipino. Korean is another option. I know a few phrases but practically nothing about the grammatical structure and so on. Erm... undecided... 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6264 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese | Message 45 of 195 08 April 2007 at 5:48am | IP Logged | ||
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Sprachprofi: Indonesian, Swedish, Swahili, Portuguese, Russian, other
Patuco: Swedish, Swahili Julie: Swedish, Portuguese, Dutch, other Frisco: Turkish, Romanian, German Jeff_lindgvist: Esperanto, Portuguese, other Raincrowlee: Esperanto Talairan: Swahili, Portuguese Leosmith? (might participate) Farley: Turkish lady_skywalker: Persian andee: Japanese Journeyer? (might participate) reineke: Japanese, Spanish leosmith: Esperanto, French, Russian Malcolm? luke: German Lastminute: Haitian Creole burntgorilla: Swedish Andy Liu: Esperanto aru-aru: Swedish, Dutch Serpent: Yiddish, Esperanto, Icelandic, Greek, Indonesian, Turkish, Old Church Slavonic, Lithuanian, Welsh MeshGearFox: Icelandic, Afrikaans, Basque, Finnish Asiafever: Japanese Evanstar: Latin Ari? (might participate) Clintaroo: Indonesian, Korean It's great to have so many people participating. The more, the merrier! And it's great to have many people learn the same language, making the methods used more easily comparable, so it wouldn't be a problem for more people to decide for Esperanto. As for questions about good courses: For Esperanto, the Ana Pana course at Lernu.net is comparable in its approach to my German course, except it also includes listening exercises and the like. I reviewed more free Esperanto courses in the "Choosing a language for a younger sib" thread. For Modern Greek, there's a professional-quality course available at http://www.xanthi.ilsp.gr/filog and if you prefer audio-only courses like Pimsleur you will probably like the one provided by Kypros.org: http://kypros.org/Greek/ (more than 100 lessons of 15 minutes each). Transcripts for each lesson are available, too. If you don't know the Greek alphabet yet, the best place to learn it is probably the "Read, write and pronounce" course I developed at Wikibooks. It's complete, 6 lessons, which you might even do one after the other since they're very easy. For Indonesian I only know the 7-day course at http://www.seasite.niu.edu/indonesian/percakapan/indonesia7d ays/indo7days_fs.htm and the "Flirting in Indonesian" course (which actually teaches much more) at http://people.freenet.de/indonesian/main.htm. For Turkish there are two very good courses: http://www.isop.ucla.edu/TurkishTutor/pages/home/blackborder -fs.html (multimedia, including normal and extra slow audio) and http://cali.arizona.edu/maxnet/tur/ There's a software teaching Old Church Slavonic available at http://www.orthodoxepubsoc.org/. I don't know how good it is. Lithuanian: a flash course at http://www.slic.org.au/Language and a learning-by-reading approach at http://www.utexas.edu/cola/depts/lrc/eieol/litol-0-X.html. For Welsh, the BBC offers the best language materials, though there's also one non-BBC course at http://www.cs.brown.edu/fun/welsh/Welsh.html. For Classical Latin I'd like to recommend my own course, as it is the most extensive one on the net (>45 lessons). Additionally you can also find a few lessons in Church Latin on my site. Anybody still looking for materials? Edited by Sprachprofi on 08 April 2007 at 5:49am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| lady_skywalker Triglot Senior Member Netherlands aspiringpolyglotblog Joined 6684 days ago 909 posts - 942 votes Speaks: Spanish, English*, Mandarin Studies: Japanese, French, Dutch, Italian | Message 46 of 195 08 April 2007 at 8:58am | IP Logged | ||
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I think at least one member has already done this but I think it probably might be an idea for all members participating in this challenge to open a new thread in the 'Language Learning Forum', probably using the term '6-Week Challenge' (or something similar) in the title.
I will start my own '6-Week Challenge' thread within the next few days. :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| reineke Senior Member United States https://learnalangua Joined 6241 days ago 851 posts - 1008 votes Studies: German | Message 47 of 195 08 April 2007 at 11:47am | IP Logged | ||
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Can we do more than 30 minutes of study per day? Should we simply do as we please and then disclose the previous knowledge, the number of hours we studied and write remarks and tips about how we like to learn or what methods we use? I think the most important part of the "experiment" is to see how quickly we progress with a new language with different methods. It should also be fun and frankly doing something I like and forcing myself to stop is not fun.
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| burntgorilla Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6238 days ago 202 posts - 206 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Danish | Message 48 of 195 08 April 2007 at 12:40pm | IP Logged | ||
I was able to get some Swedish stuff by following the instructions in this thread. Audible seems to have resources for lots of different languages. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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