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How many words do you learn per day? | ||
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| bbbyblos Triglot Newbie Russian Federation Joined 5228 days ago 1 posts - 2 votes Speaks: Ukrainian, Russian*, English Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Arabic (Levantine) | Message 129 of 213 04 August 2010 at 3:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Can I ask one stupid question? How do you choose those words that you want to learn every day? Just interesting for me and for my studying!
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| Khublei Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Yugoslavia homestayperu.net Joined 5345 days ago 90 posts - 141 votes  Speaks: English*, Irish*, Spanish Studies: Russian, Khasi, French, Albanian | Message 130 of 213 04 August 2010 at 4:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
I just have a conversation with myself, and whatever words I didn't know I look up and learn them. Some days it's 0, some 30. 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| slymie Tetraglot Groupie China Joined 5226 days ago 81 posts - 154 votes Speaks: English, Macedonian Studies: French, Mandarin, Greek Studies: Shanghainese, Uyghur, Russian | Message 131 of 213 05 August 2010 at 6:33am | IP Logged | |||||
Good stuff. I have no idea what people are saying about memorizing stroke order. Left to right top to bottom. Once you are used to the radicals and basic hanzi you should never have to memorize stroke order. One of the great things about Chinese is once you know the most common hanzi and radicals you can almost always guess the meaning. As for learning 100 hanzi a day, I hope beginners don't take that goal seriously, its very unreasonable for a beginner to memorize that much in a day. 100 chinese words in a day, for an intermediate-advanced learner, perhaps. But 100 hanzi to a beginner? 太离谱儿。 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5379 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 132 of 213 05 August 2010 at 6:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
Excellent strategy. On the upside, you acquire all the words you need to express yourself as they are really needed in real life (not in theory); on the downside, the acquisition is based on the needs in your language(s), not in the target language. Still, this is a must for anyone wishing to acquire fluency. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| ladanoise Groupie United States Joined 5291 days ago 45 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, Danish | Message 133 of 213 05 August 2010 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The way I choose words to learn for vocabulary is to read books and newspaper articles and put the words I don't know on flash cards. It is sometimes interesting to be reading a book that involves a shipwreck, for instance, and then read something about a shipwreck in the news several days later. The synchronicity that happens is sometimes bizarre!
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| doviende Diglot Senior Member Canada languagefixatio Joined 5984 days ago 533 posts - 1245 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Hindi, Swedish, Portuguese | Message 134 of 213 05 August 2010 at 8:14pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Since most of my language learning comes from various activities with real novels in the target language, I tend to get most of my vocabulary from those books. I usually try to be selective in which words I look up. At the beginning stages, I might do lots of lookups, since I don't get many of the words at all and I need to build a base. Later on, I try to only look up a word after I've seen it at least a couple of times, so that I don't spend my time looking up a whole bunch of frivolous words.
So, currently I'm trying to read a more difficult book in Swedish, and my level is only intermediate still, so I've been doing more lookups than usually in an attempt to jump up a bit. I have to be careful though, because this means that I'm sacrificing some of the pure enjoyment of reading that I might gain more of if I dropped back to an easier book. In German, I'm at a much higher level of vocabulary, so I usually take the time to look up almost every single word that I don't know, because there are only a handful on each page. This varies from book to book too, so I've tried to move up again to a more difficult book in that too. And of course, every word that I take the time to look up will be put into Anki with an example sentence, because I don't want that lookup effort to go to waste by forgetting it a day later. So, as a result, depending on the difficulty of the book and my effort that day, I might do between 5 and 50 new words per day, although 20 is a more typical number. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| kidshomestunner Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 6403 days ago 239 posts - 285 votes Speaks: Japanese | Message 135 of 213 06 August 2010 at 12:15am | IP Logged | |||||
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Somebody asked me this and I said "as many as I can".
Pedants would argue about the meaning of word and tbh I think there is some mileage to this argument. When I am starting off learning I would learn about fifty though I remember cramming for exams when I was younger and learning about 100-150 a day. I would advise somebody to learn fifty a day. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 Iversen Super Polyglot Moderator Denmark berejst.dk Joined 6701 days ago 9078 posts - 16473 votes Speaks: Danish*, French, English, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, Dutch, Swedish, Esperanto, Romanian, Catalan Studies: Afrikaans, Greek, Norwegian, Russian, Serbian, Icelandic, Latin, Irish, Lowland Scots, Indonesian, Polish, Croatian Personal Language Map | Message 136 of 213 03 September 2010 at 10:26am | IP Logged | |||||
I have two main sources for my wordlists: things I read intensively and dictionaries. The texts I choose for intensive reading must have a theme that is interesting, otherwise I wouldn't choose them (and it's almost exclusively non fiction). And then it follows that I learn words from a certain area of knowledge and that the words are used in 'serious' writing. Which leaves out words and expressions from ordinary smalltalk which may occur in litterature, but rarely in texts about science or culture. But I don't like smalltalk, so it's not a big thing missing out on those words. I rarely use unknown words from my extensive reading or listening. Of course I might learn a few words here and there, but I would lose the momentum in those activities. However if I do have to do it because a whole passage otherwise would be pure gibberish, then the flow has already been disturbed and then I may just as well take the time to make a note about the word. When I use a dictionary I choose words that might be useful, but also words that just catch my imagination. In series of related words I just choose a few representative words because when I have learned those the rest will be easy to learn at a later time. Concerning long and convoluted words: if I see a compound word built on an unknown 'ingredient' then I prefer learning the ingredient first - it is easier to remember long words if you already know the components. If I stumple over the pronunciation of a word then it is too early to learn it. Unlike Khublei I haven't systematically jotted down words I miss in my inner monologue, but it would certainly be useful to to it - maybe less for single words than for expressions. Edited by Iversen on 03 September 2010 at 10:41am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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