Aquila123 Tetraglot Senior Member Norway mydeltapi.com Joined 5303 days ago 201 posts - 262 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, English, Italian, Spanish Studies: Finnish, Russian
| Message 153 of 169 07 January 2014 at 6:08pm | IP Logged |
If you aim for learning Norwegian, you should learn Bokmål both to write and speak. The dialect which is spoken in Oslo can be said to be bokmål with some variations.
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4665 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 154 of 169 08 January 2014 at 5:58pm | IP Logged |
In fact, there are 2 ''dialects'' in Oslo, a Riksmål-like one (spoken in West Oslo and used by VG and Aftenposten) and a radical Bokmål-like one (spoken in Oslo-East and used by Klassekampen and writers like Per Petterson). It may be confusing for a beginner, who would see kvinnen, kastet, gammel... in one style/subdialect, and kvinna, kasta, gammal... in another style/subdialect,
Edited by Medulin on 08 January 2014 at 5:59pm
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5331 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 155 of 169 08 January 2014 at 7:51pm | IP Logged |
Curiously enough I have yet to hear a single foreigner in Norway complain about the dialects. And the
East/West difference in Oslo is of very little importance. Learners will be understood by everyone regardless
of which variant they chose, and I doubt that it will cause much of a problem with the understanding. Kasta
would not be uncommon in use, gammal less so, and kvinna I have not heard since I was 15 years old and
we had a teacher with an obscure dialect. And I have lived 14 years on the Eastern side of Oslo.
Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 09 January 2014 at 2:36pm
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4665 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 156 of 169 10 January 2014 at 5:59pm | IP Logged |
At least kvinna is fine Swedish :=)
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louisjanus Newbie United States NorwegianLanguage.inRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5616 days ago 11 posts - 19 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 157 of 169 10 January 2014 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
except that KVINNA is the lemma in Swedish (woman), while in Norwegian the lemma is KVINNE. Kvinna is the
Definite singular 'the woman.'
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Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4665 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali
| Message 158 of 169 10 January 2014 at 9:22pm | IP Logged |
KVINNA is lemma in many Norwegian dialects too (ei kvinna),
for example in the song ''Når Ei Kvinna Går Forbi'' as made famous by Elle Melle
Edited by Medulin on 10 January 2014 at 9:24pm
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Qaanaaq Newbie United States Joined 4121 days ago 14 posts - 25 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 159 of 169 05 March 2014 at 10:31pm | IP Logged |
If I want to study all three (Danish, Swedish, Norwegian) at some point in my life, would Norwegian be the best one
to start with?
According to Wiki, via this article:
studies have shown that speakers of Norwegian generally understand both Danish and Swedish far better than
Swedes or Danes understand each other. Both Swedes and Danes also understand Norwegian better than they
understand each other's languages.
Can any native Scandinavians comment on this?
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montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4825 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh
| Message 160 of 169 05 March 2014 at 10:48pm | IP Logged |
Qaanaaq wrote:
If I want to study all three (Danish, Swedish, Norwegian) at some
point in my life, would Norwegian be the best one
to start with?
According to Wiki, via
this article:
studies have shown that speakers of Norwegian generally understand both Danish and
Swedish far better than
Swedes or Danes understand each other. Both Swedes and Danes also understand Norwegian
better than they
understand each other's languages.
Can any native Scandinavians comment on this? |
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I'm not a Scandinavian, but my gut response now (after having posed similar questions
myself in the past actually), is to go with your gut feeling and choose the one
which you think you will like the most, and/or the one you are mostly likely to find
yourself using or find yourself exposed to. Life's too short to think in terms of "If
I do A, then B, then C, will that be better when I want to do D, or should I do A then
C then B first...".
Basically just choose one and get stuck in.
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