michal Pentaglot Newbie Czech Republic Joined 5304 days ago 16 posts - 34 votes Speaks: Czech*, English, German, Russian, French Studies: Latvian, Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Polish, Yiddish, Greek, Hungarian
| Message 73 of 174 16 October 2012 at 4:29pm | IP Logged |
Registrador wrote:
seldnar wrote:
According to a September 10th posting on their Facebook page "new method" means the same as
refreshed or updated edition. Or, in their words: "ASSIMIL: C'était juste pour éviter une répétition !
nouvelle édition et édition mise à jour ou rafraîchie, c'est pareil !" |
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So does this means that the "new" assimil books are going to have the same content than the previous
ones?. Are they going to limit their work to just correct the misprints and make a new front page? That's
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What the Assimil marketing person says on their Facebook profile is definitely not accurate. I have bought a few of their new and updated courses over the last year and a half:
Their latest Portuguese and Persian courses are minor updates.
Their latest Swedish course is completely new, I have not noticed any overlap with the previous two volume Sans Peine version.
Their latest advanced German course is a significant update with some overlap with the previous edition, in my opinion worth a purchase if you have the old one.
I definitely would not say that "c'est pareil".
So I would not be too skeptical about their updates. Extracting accurate information from their marketing staff may be a different story. I am not on Facebook myself, maybe somebody who is would care to educate their marketing staff about this?
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alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7221 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 74 of 174 19 October 2012 at 8:38am | IP Logged |
michal wrote:
Their latest Portuguese and Persian courses are minor updates.
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What are the actual minor updates?
Is there any with the audio?
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michal Pentaglot Newbie Czech Republic Joined 5304 days ago 16 posts - 34 votes Speaks: Czech*, English, German, Russian, French Studies: Latvian, Modern Hebrew, Biblical Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Mandarin, Polish, Yiddish, Greek, Hungarian
| Message 75 of 174 19 October 2012 at 9:42am | IP Logged |
alang wrote:
michal wrote:
Their latest Portuguese and Persian courses are minor updates.
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What are the actual minor updates?
Is there any with the audio? |
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I have only gone through some of the Portuguese course. The changes I have noticed are:
1. The revision lesson dialogues (7,14,..} are now recorded.
2. In other lessons, I have only noticed changes in two places where references to writing on a typewriter were replaced with references to writing on a computer. The recording has been updated in these places as well.
Persian is sitting in my bookshelf for later study, maybe somebody else can comment on the precise nature of the updates. All I can say is that quickly opening the book and thumbing through it did not reveal anything more than different pagination.
Hope this helps.
Edited by michal on 19 October 2012 at 12:51pm
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alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7221 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 76 of 174 19 October 2012 at 9:11pm | IP Logged |
@ michal,
Thanks for letting the forum know about the specific minor updates. You have my useful vote.
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Juаn Senior Member Colombia Joined 5345 days ago 727 posts - 1830 votes Speaks: Spanish*
| Message 77 of 174 22 November 2012 at 9:01pm | IP Logged |
They posted the following on their Facebook page
Assimil wrote:
Nous sommes sûrs que vous êtes avides de connaître nos prochaines méthodes, à paraître en 2013 sans la collection Sans Peine.
En début d'année, de nouvelles éditions revues et mises à jour de l'Indonésien, du Tchèque, du Hongrois.
Un peu plus tard, le Japonais sera remis à jour et en un seul volume, accompagné de son volume d'écriture.
Puis nous ajouterons le Khmer à notre catalogue, vraisemblablement au printemps.
Très attendue, la méthode de Sanskrit est prévue pour août.
Côté langues régionales, nous aurons une toute nouvelle méthode d'Occitan. Sans parler de quelques autres surprises à venir... |
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Does this mean the Indonesian, Czech, Hungarian and Japanese texts will be basically the same courses and feature the same dialogues, with minor revisions and updates?
I'd like to ask them this, but I'm not a member of Facebook and do not wish to become one.
Can someone who is on Facebook please ask them, of the recent and upcoming books, which feature the same dialogues and which are entirely new? The ones I know of which have been recently re-released or announced are the Danish, Czech, Hungarian, Persian and Indonesian courses.
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4909 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 78 of 174 22 November 2012 at 9:44pm | IP Logged |
I am personally drooling over the prospect of a good Sanskrit course with audio. I'm
going to have to kick my French studies up so I'll be able to understand the grammar
explanations!
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SomeGuy Groupie Germany Joined 5100 days ago 56 posts - 75 votes Speaks: German* Studies: Arabic (Written), Turkish, Mandarin
| Message 79 of 174 22 November 2012 at 11:23pm | IP Logged |
A little bit off topic but i ask myself which level of French is necessary to use the French courses ? ( B1 or higher ? )
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5565 days ago 938 posts - 1840 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 80 of 174 22 November 2012 at 11:43pm | IP Logged |
Having gone through L'Allemand, I reckon a 'real' A2 French (i.e. one knows the grammar required for A2 and
not just how to say the necessary phrases) and a good dictionary (such as the biggish Collins Inhave on my
I-phone) is probably sufficient to get through a modern Assimil course.
Edited by Elexi on 22 November 2012 at 11:46pm
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