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sillygoose1
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Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French
Studies: German, Latin

 
 Message 81 of 101
23 October 2012 at 5:50pm | IP Logged 
I always do one lesson a day, but usually I'll do the last lesson in a week + the revision lesson so sometimes 2/day.

I did the same thing for French.

For the active wave in French, I did one passive/one active like they suggested at first but I felt it was moving too slow so sometimes I would do anywhere from 1-5 active wave lessons a day. I plan to do that again.

For the advanced Assimil, I didn't do the active wave at all.

Which versions of Assimil do you use? I think since you are a native Portuguese speaker you could probably do 2-3 Italian lessons a day with decent results since you want to go fast. Don't take my word for it though, I'm strictly assuming. :)
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Roman
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Speaks: Portuguese*, English
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 Message 82 of 101
23 October 2012 at 6:14pm | IP Logged 
You did five active lessons but only one new passive lesson, right? Or five new passive
too? Did you write it all, or just did it orally? :)

I use a Spanish based one for German and a Portuguese one for Italian. And yeah, I think
I can do 2 or 3 lessons a day for Italian since it's fairly easy to understand and
pronounce, but I think I'll do only 2 at most for now.

Sorry for my broken English! :)


Edited by Roman on 23 October 2012 at 6:17pm

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sillygoose1
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 Message 83 of 101
23 October 2012 at 6:35pm | IP Logged 
Five active, one passive.

I didn't write anything down except the first two lessons.

How come you use a Spanish base?

Also, your English is fine.

Good luck with Assimil!
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Roman
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 Message 84 of 101
23 October 2012 at 6:41pm | IP Logged 
Well, Spanish is very close to Portuguese, even more in reading it, so for me it's easy.
My spoken and written Spanish sucks, but my listening and reading comprehension is very
good, without never having studied it...



Edited by Roman on 23 October 2012 at 7:28pm

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sillygoose1
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 Message 85 of 101
23 October 2012 at 6:51pm | IP Logged 
Can you sit through a Spanish movie and understand alot? I'd like to do that with Portuguese after I get a good level in Spanish, but I'm going to go through Le Bresilien anyway.

Are there many false friends between Spanish/Portuguese?


Also, someone on italki sent me these resources for Italian dialects if anyone is interested.

Piedmontese:

http://pms.i-iter.org/

http://giannidavico.it/gopiedmont/

http://digilander.libero.it/dotor43/indexen.html

http://www.nostereis.org/

http://www.piemontesinoca.com/pdf/intro.pdf

http://elmepiemonteis.blogspot.com/

http://www.piemonteis.com/index.php

http://www.piemont.org/

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SYSZFFPIuh4&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sx8rpJLVW_Q

http://pms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Reading_Piedmontese_ English_version

http://guidematt.xoom.it//guidematt/page3.html

http://bertola.eu/piemonteis/intro/syntax.php

http://www.piemunteis.it/e-liber

http://piemonteis.xoom.it/

http://guidematt.xoom.it//guidematt/page21.html

Italian:

http://ilgur.com/

http://www.unilang.org/viewtopic.php?f=54&t=34805

Venetian:

http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Venetan/mgx_veneto.pdf

Ligurian:

http://www.romaniaminor.net/gramatiques/gramatica_ligure.pdf

http://www.genoves.com.ar/aprender/v/1parla.html

http://www.genoves.com.ar/english/1write.html

http://www.freelang.net/online/ligurian.php?lg=gb

http://www.zeneize.net/index.html

Romansh:

http://www.unifr.ch/rheto/documents/Gramminstr.pdf

Emiliano-Romagnolo:

http://argaza.racine.ra.it/workO/pb/pb-187-file-The_Romagnol o_dialect.pdf

http://italian.about.com/od/emilianoromagnolo/EmilianoRomagn olo_EmilioRomagnolo_EmilianRomagnol.htm

Bolognese:

http://bulgnais.com/

http://eml.wikipedia.org/wiki/V%C3%AAreb

http://www.bulgnais.com/lessico.html

http://www.bulgnais.com/traduz.html

Lombard:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_Lombard_grammar

http://www.orbilat.com/Languages/Lombard/Grammar/index.html

http://wiki.verbix.com/Languages/Milanese

Friulian:

http://web.archive.org/web/20090201063149/http://geocities.c om/CollegePark/union/1702/course.html

Neapolitan:

http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Neapolitan
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Roman
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 Message 86 of 101
23 October 2012 at 10:07pm | IP Logged 
Wow, thank you for the links...
As for movies yes, I can watch and understand a lot of it and probably miss some slangs
and some super fast talking.

When you get to a high level in Spanish (and using something from French) you will
probably understand PT without much problems. But yes, going trough Le Brasilien will
not hurt!

As far as I know, there are very little false friends, e.g. the Spanish word embarazada
have a Portuguese false friend embaraçada, but SP embarazada means pregnant and PT
embaraçada means embarrassed. But it's a rare thing.

Edited by Roman on 23 October 2012 at 10:09pm

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Just a Dreamer
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 Message 87 of 101
01 November 2012 at 11:26pm | IP Logged 
Your way for learning French is just amazing, I was about to use MT, Assimil and Linguaphone (to take some test in french e.g. TEF), but I want to ask how did you use Linguaphone course?
I mean you've done some shadowing alongside the book or something else?
and for me, Do you recommend to add another book to these books??
Thank you:)
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sillygoose1
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 Message 88 of 101
02 November 2012 at 2:17am | IP Logged 
Dreamer - Thank you very much. :)

I used Linguaphone the same way I used Assimil. Listen, read, etc.

I've done no shadowing. I don't personally see a benefit to it.

I think those books will be fine. Make sure to use Using French if you can. It will get boring after awhile, but I believe it's worth it.


Update:


French -

I've watched many movies/shows but I didn't bother to note them. Listening comprehension still varies and it annoys me to no end. Mesrine 1+2 was off and on for me especially. I need to learn the equivalents of "gonna", "wanna", "I 'on know", etc. I don't see that happening unless I live in a Francophone country. I've watched some Quebecois movies, and I didn't do so hot, even with perfect subtitles. Starbuck particularly. If not for the subs, I would have been almost completely lost.

Italian -

Some things came up and I didn't do Assimil for 3 days. I do 43 tomorrow. Italian is starting to make sense now. Since I did nothing beforehand, its trickier for me unlike French. I jumped right into Assimil.

Spanish -

Same. Lesson 20 tomorrow.


With my knowledge of French, learning Italian from an English base, and Spanish from a French base, I am not getting confused at all. If anything, I can't remember a lot of the words, but I think that's a normal Assimil thing. I may have underestimated the active wave. I think it was easy for me because of my false beginner status at the time. I can see myself understanding Italian and Spanish a lot more once the active wave rolls around.


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