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| sillygoose1 Tetraglot Senior Member United States Joined 4634 days ago 566 posts - 814 votes  Speaks: English*, Italian, Spanish, French Studies: German, Latin | Message 97 of 101 18 December 2012 at 4:32am | IP Logged | |||||
Thanks. It's still frustrating though! I just can't wrap my head around their speech at times. Did you find that it'll all just come eventually with listening continuously? Do you usually listen to radio or something before diving into a show? I find that tends to help quite a bit. I knew those samples were a bit too easy. It's still something to work with I guess. Are you doing a TAC this year? 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 emk Diglot Moderator United States Joined 5530 days ago 2615 posts - 8806 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchB2 Studies: Spanish, Ancient Egyptian Personal Language Map | Message 98 of 101 18 December 2012 at 6:37am | IP Logged | |||||
Listening seems to have lots of little different pieces—real-time decoding, having a big enough vocabulary (which I mostly get through reading), correctly linking the sounds I hear to the letters I read, and then somehow making everything sensible in real time with enough leftover mental bandwidth to do something with it. I think doing tons of listening is super-helpful, but it's not enough by itself. I also need reading. When I turn on Buffy, it takes me maybe 30 seconds to tune in. If I turn on VoilaTV, I sometimes just need to watch for 5 or 10 minutes before I start understanding most of what I'm hearing, especially if it's talking heads yammering at each other. I guess this is why long series rock. There's a certain small fraction of conversation that's insanely hard. I don't know how to explain this without just giving you my Amélie subs2srs deck, or maybe posting a few evil cards online. There's a tiny handful of clips that I have to listen to 20 times with a transcript before I can even hear all the pieces. There's also the question of what I mean by "80% comprehension"—do I mean understanding what 80% of the sentences mean, or clearly getting every single word of 80% of the sentences? I've called both of these "80% comprehension" at various times, and both definitions are sometimes useful.
I'm planning on reading a bunch of PaX French logs, but I'm not actually intending to join a team. Edited by emk on 18 December 2012 at 6:39am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Rout Diglot Senior Member United States Joined 5710 days ago 326 posts - 417 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish Studies: Hindi | Message 99 of 101 03 January 2013 at 4:24am | IP Logged | |||||
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Hey, sillygoose. Glad to have you on team pax! I've read a lot of your log here (don't have time to read it all right now), and I'll definitely keep up with all your posts from here on out. Good luck!
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| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5393 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 100 of 101 03 January 2013 at 4:49am | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm really looking forward to what 2013 has in store for you. I study Spanish, French and Italian also, so I will be watching your progress with a lot of interest!
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| CY Diglot Newbie Korea, South Joined 3743 days ago 2 posts - 2 votes Speaks: Vietnamese, Korean* | Message 101 of 101 02 December 2014 at 10:24pm | IP Logged | |||||
Last night, I too studied leçon 38. It is the longest lesson so far upto there. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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