Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 33 of 71 13 January 2013 at 6:11pm | IP Logged |
Toffeeliz wrote:
In Soviet Russia, English teaches you ;) How would you change this to
say' We teach the English language."? |
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Мы здесь учим английскому языку. Or (better) Мы здесь преподаём английский язык. The
first sentence will be better if you add a direct object there (who you teach the English
language).
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fabriciocarraro Hexaglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Brazil russoparabrasileirosRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4713 days ago 989 posts - 1454 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishB2, Italian, Spanish, Russian, French Studies: Dutch, German, Japanese
| Message 34 of 71 13 January 2013 at 6:13pm | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
Мы здесь учим английскому языку. |
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Mark, what's the change in meaning with the dative case?
To me, this sentence above would express something like "Here, we teach (something) to the English language", which makes no sense at all =P
Explain, please.
Edited by fabriciocarraro on 13 January 2013 at 6:15pm
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 35 of 71 13 January 2013 at 6:16pm | IP Logged |
fabriciocarraro wrote:
Марк wrote:
Мы здесь учим английскому языку. |
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Mark, what's the change in meaning with the dative case? |
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Учить что-то to learn something, учить чему-то - to teach something. Учить кого-то чему-
то is to teach something to someone. In Russian it is in the opposite way than in
English.
Edited by Марк on 13 January 2013 at 6:18pm
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| Message 36 of 71 13 January 2013 at 6:22pm | IP Logged |
Ah, now this sentence makes sense to me, too. Thanks for explaining, Mark!
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 37 of 71 13 January 2013 at 6:36pm | IP Logged |
I have a question myself. Do I understand correctly that we say "to teach someone" and
"to teach something", but if we combine these two objects we have to add the preposition
"to" before "someone"?
Edited by Марк on 13 January 2013 at 6:37pm
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Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4842 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 38 of 71 13 January 2013 at 7:01pm | IP Logged |
Yes, but I think the "to" can often be left out:
I teach her English.
I teach English to a group of students.
I teach the students English.
I don't know the exact rule though
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5054 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 39 of 71 13 January 2013 at 7:08pm | IP Logged |
Josquin wrote:
Yes, but I think the "to" can often be left out:
I teach her English.
I teach English to a group of students.
I teach the students English.
I don't know the exact rule though |
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The word order is probably decisive here. Thank you.
Edited by Марк on 13 January 2013 at 7:11pm
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| Message 40 of 71 13 January 2013 at 7:21pm | IP Logged |
Марк wrote:
I have a question myself. Do I understand correctly that we say "to teach
someone" and
"to teach something", but if we combine these two objects we have to add the preposition
"to" before "someone"? |
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To teach someone something.
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