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Ellsworth
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Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish

 
 Message 1 of 144
27 December 2011 at 8:40pm | IP Logged 
Hey all. In 2012 I will try try to accomplish as much as I can in Irish and Russian. I am
completely new to these languages and as these are the first languages I have worked on
completely by myself from scratch,
I am unsure of how realistic my goals are.
My Basic Strategy for the Year for Irish
January-April
     complete understanding of general grammar(all except subtleties)
     ability to pronounce and spell all words decently(it is supposed to be a phonetic
alphabet)
     essential vocab
May-August
     accent
     roughly 500 vocab words
     20-40 listening comprehension
September-December
     continue working on accent
     roughly 750 more vocab words
     50-60 percent reading comprehension
     40-60 percent listening comprehension
I will be aiming for 40-60 minutes a day practice beginning with "New Irish Grammar"
and an English-Irish dictionary.
Basic Strategy for Russian
Incomplete as of yet. I have not been able to really assess enough yet. I hope to have a better idea by at least February.
I will keep track of every new word I learn. If you want to see those words, a link is
here for Irish and
here for Russian.
Hope to update these word banks and this log at least once a week to keep myself focused.

Edited by Ellsworth on 29 December 2011 at 3:46am

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Teango
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 Message 2 of 144
27 December 2011 at 11:49pm | IP Logged 
Best of luck Ellsworth, and great to meet another student of Irish in the 2012 TAC (I think that makes 3 of us so far). :)
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Марк
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 Message 3 of 144
28 December 2011 at 10:21am | IP Logged 
"ability to pronounce and spell all words decently(it is supposed to be a phonetic
alphabet)"
Russian has a complex spelling system.
The graphics is good. For example, yotating letters and soft sign are better than caol le
caol agus leathan le leathan but unstressed vowels cause a big problem unlike Irish.
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Ellsworth
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 Message 4 of 144
28 December 2011 at 5:39pm | IP Logged 
Oh I should have specified those goals were for Irish. I am still unsure about how much
Russian I will be able to do.
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Ellsworth
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 Message 5 of 144
29 December 2011 at 4:04am | IP Logged 
A day studying! Starting to make sense of both languages, especially Irish. Really so
happy to be learning it. So beautiful. Here is one of the many songs I have listened to
today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDmDnwgcxJQ&feature=related
A couple notes
The stress on vowels is very confusing in Russian!
The imperfective/perfective verb pairs are also very confusing, but over all the verb
conjugations are fairly straightforward.
Irish seems more like a language for speaking than writing, as the written language seems
rather after the fact, as if they are trying to explain things like the leniting and
eclipsing with spelling rules and exceptions, when it seems like it will only be learned
through internalization.
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Tecktight
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 Message 6 of 144
29 December 2011 at 4:40am | IP Logged 
You've a very interesting pairing of languages, here!

I know zilch about Irish, but that's a beautiful song.
Best of luck this year!
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Марк
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 Message 7 of 144
29 December 2011 at 9:16am | IP Logged 
Have you got the impression that Irish dialects sound like different languages?

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Teango
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 Message 8 of 144
29 December 2011 at 12:43pm | IP Logged 
A beautiful song with very touching lyrics - go raibh maith agat (thank you)!


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