Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish
| Message 1 of 144 27 December 2011 at 8:40pm | IP Logged |
Hey all. In 2012 I will try try to accomplish as much as I can in Irish and Russian. I am
completely new to these languages and as these are the first languages I have worked on
completely by myself from scratch,
I am unsure of how realistic my goals are.
My Basic Strategy for the Year for Irish
January-April
complete understanding of general grammar(all except subtleties)
ability to pronounce and spell all words decently(it is supposed to be a phonetic
alphabet)
essential vocab
May-August
accent
roughly 500 vocab words
20-40 listening comprehension
September-December
continue working on accent
roughly 750 more vocab words
50-60 percent reading comprehension
40-60 percent listening comprehension
I will be aiming for 40-60 minutes a day practice beginning with "New Irish Grammar"
and an English-Irish dictionary.
Basic Strategy for Russian
Incomplete as of yet. I have not been able to really assess enough yet. I hope to have a better idea by at least February.
I will keep track of every new word I learn. If you want to see those words, a link is
here for Irish and
here for Russian.
Hope to update these word banks and this log at least once a week to keep myself focused.
Edited by Ellsworth on 29 December 2011 at 3:46am
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 2 of 144 27 December 2011 at 11:49pm | IP Logged |
Best of luck Ellsworth, and great to meet another student of Irish in the 2012 TAC (I think that makes 3 of us so far). :)
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 3 of 144 28 December 2011 at 10:21am | IP Logged |
"ability to pronounce and spell all words decently(it is supposed to be a phonetic
alphabet)"
Russian has a complex spelling system.
The graphics is good. For example, yotating letters and soft sign are better than caol le
caol agus leathan le leathan but unstressed vowels cause a big problem unlike Irish.
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Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish
| Message 4 of 144 28 December 2011 at 5:39pm | IP Logged |
Oh I should have specified those goals were for Irish. I am still unsure about how much
Russian I will be able to do.
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Ellsworth Senior Member United States Joined 4958 days ago 345 posts - 528 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Swedish, Finnish, Icelandic, Irish
| Message 5 of 144 29 December 2011 at 4:04am | IP Logged |
A day studying! Starting to make sense of both languages, especially Irish. Really so
happy to be learning it. So beautiful. Here is one of the many songs I have listened to
today. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDmDnwgcxJQ&feature=related
A couple notes
The stress on vowels is very confusing in Russian!
The imperfective/perfective verb pairs are also very confusing, but over all the verb
conjugations are fairly straightforward.
Irish seems more like a language for speaking than writing, as the written language seems
rather after the fact, as if they are trying to explain things like the leniting and
eclipsing with spelling rules and exceptions, when it seems like it will only be learned
through internalization.
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Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4977 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian
| Message 6 of 144 29 December 2011 at 4:40am | IP Logged |
You've a very interesting pairing of languages, here!
I know zilch about Irish, but that's a beautiful song.
Best of luck this year!
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Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 5057 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian*
| Message 7 of 144 29 December 2011 at 9:16am | IP Logged |
Have you got the impression that Irish dialects sound like different languages?
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Teango Triglot Winner TAC 2010 & 2012 Senior Member United States teango.wordpress.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5557 days ago 2210 posts - 3734 votes Speaks: English*, German, Russian Studies: Hawaiian, French, Toki Pona
| Message 8 of 144 29 December 2011 at 12:43pm | IP Logged |
A beautiful song with very touching lyrics - go raibh maith agat (thank you)!
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