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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 105 of 141 15 June 2007 at 1:22pm | IP Logged |
0_0 Luulin, että se rakenne merkitsee "anywhere", "at any time" jne... Esimerkiksi kerran kysyin ystävältäni, että saako Suomessa ottaa kuvia keikoilla, ja hän vastasi, että "yleensä kuka tahansa saa ottaa kuvia", siis varmaan se rakenne voi kuitenkin olla päälauseessakin, eli tarkemmin voisi (ymmärtääkseni) sanoa, että sillä rakenteella on kaksi merkitystä, ja näistä riippuen se toimii joko pelkästään sivulauseena tai sekä sivulauseena että päälauseena. Onko tämä teoria oikea? :)
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Hencke Tetraglot Moderator Spain Joined 6891 days ago 2340 posts - 2444 votes Speaks: Swedish*, Finnish, EnglishC2, Spanish Studies: Mandarin Personal Language Map
| Message 106 of 141 15 June 2007 at 3:36pm | IP Logged |
Katsoisin ne mielummin eri rakenteiksi, on vähän selkeämpi niin. Tuo mitä ystäväsi sanoi on täysin oikein, ja sinä käsitit sen oikein, mutta se olikin se toinen rakenne, missä ei ole -kin verbin liitteenä.
Edited by Hencke on 15 June 2007 at 3:50pm
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 107 of 141 15 June 2007 at 3:52pm | IP Logged |
Joo, näin on toki selkeämpi, kiitti!!
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| K2 Groupie Canada Joined 6745 days ago 69 posts - 69 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Norwegian
| Message 108 of 141 16 June 2007 at 10:11pm | IP Logged |
I was wondering Serpant how long you study a day for cause I was reading your log and right around the 8th page of it you go from english with maybe a phrase of Finnish to COMPLETE Finnish and I was curious to as your study methods.
Also Your Log was Kicka@zz and made me very jelaous at your success:P.
I only know how to you "nice to meet you" :P.
Anyways darn tooting good log.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 109 of 141 17 June 2007 at 11:43am | IP Logged |
Well actually I just once decided to write here in Finnish instead of English, it's not like I wasn't able to write only in Finnish before. I had been learning Finnish for a year and a half before I found this forum.
The time I spend studying Finnish varies from 9 hours a day (when I'm at my grandmother's who doesn't have a computer) to nearly no studying but using the language a lot.
As for my methods there's nothing special, they're described in the steps section (feel free to ask if you have any questions). I think the most important factors have been that I wasn't afraid to practise from the very beginning and that the stuff I read was extremely interesting for me, eg my favourite bands' websites;)
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 110 of 141 20 July 2007 at 10:37pm | IP Logged |
Taas kysymys tästä rakenteesta... Miksi tässä lauseessa verbin lopussa ei olekaan kin-liitettä?
samalta esperantosivustolta wrote:
Ja minä toivotan sinulle miellyttävää ja mukavaa matkan jatkoa, minne tahansa olet menossa! |
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| Aapo Diglot Newbie Finland tarpeet-on.blog Joined 6466 days ago 29 posts - 40 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English Studies: Swedish, Japanese
| Message 111 of 141 21 July 2007 at 4:55am | IP Logged |
Sanoisin että se on vain unohtunut kirjoittajalta. En ole varma onko kyse
varsinaisesta kielioppivirheestä, mutta joka tapaksessa kuulostaisi
paremmalta jos lauseeseen lisäisi jotain:
"minne tahansa oletkaan menossa!"
"minne tahansa olet menossakaan!"
"minne tahansa oletkin menossa!"
"minne tahansa lienetkin menossa!"
"minne tahansa olet sitten menossa!" (puhekielinen)
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6594 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 112 of 141 01 September 2007 at 1:30pm | IP Logged |
Taas muutama kysymys.
Olen lukenut, että "olla tekemäsillään"-ilmaisua käytetään melko harvoin ja se kuulostaa runolliselta ja arkaistiselta. Suomessa kuulin sen kerran eräässä tv-ohjelmassa, jonka juontaja näytti yleensä käyttävän paljon puhekieltä ja slangiakin. Oliko tämä siis humoristista käyttöä vai ymmärränkö väärin, että tuo muoto on harvinainen?
Ja mihin sanaan viittaa mikään-sana tässä lauseessa? "Mutta mikään kestävään kehitykseen uskoja ei ole tänä päivänäkään"
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