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french.about.com - Introduction to French Verbs
Welcome to the nightmare of les verbes Wherein one learns that there are up to six verb forms or conjugations for each French verb even in the straightforward present tense, one for each grammatical person, compared to only two present tense conjugations in English (yet another reason why English totally rocks over French, but I digress…) In terms of conjugation, one can (and apparently does) divide French verbs into the following categories - Regular verbs (-ER, -IR, -RE) - Stem-changing verbs (subversive –ER verbs, with a snaky French twist) - Irregular verbs (including, helpfully, the 10 most common French verbs) Just because there is no point in making things too straightforward: spread across these three categories may be verbs from the following two categories (which FAC indicates require “additional particularity” – AKA French fussiness): - Pronominal verbs (including reflexive verbs) - Impersonal verbs 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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Conjugation
conjugation Conjugation is some sort of tricky interplay between the following: Person (first, second or third person – easy-peasy) Number (singular or plural) Just to screw up something straightforward, you must use the second person plural as a polite way to refer to a second person singular, and also you can use the third person singular “on” in place of the first person plural “nous” – nope, I am not making this madness up) Tense (at least 8 of them – yes I agree, any well-designed system only needs three) Mood (6 different ones) Voice (3 different ones). The idea seems to be to pick one option from each of the above five categories, apply magic and then spit out the correctly conjugated form of the verb. Edited by Spanky on 07 September 2012 at 7:23pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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Person
Subject pronouns Very basic review, with a bonus test after seven pages (got 117%, just saying). Mining the sample sentences for Anki. Tu v. vous, article (p. 3 of the above) and tu v. vous bonus quiz. tu v. vous quiz Also a link to a separate article on the negotiation of appropriate tu v. vous pronoun: on peut se tutoyer page 5 of subject pronoun article – « on » - we, they, one, someone, people in general - whether agreement required or not required with subject pronoun implied by use or “on” - apparently the French have not yet decided. ie. “on est content” – apparently agreement is optional, so where “on” is a reference to singular v. plural, feminine, etc, agreement may or may not occur (on est contents, on est contentes, etc). Same for adjectives and etre verbs (ie. on est tombé v. on est tombées) Edited by Spanky on 10 September 2012 at 4:42pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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tense (temps)
Describes the “when” of a verb Verbal tense (temps) présent passé simple simple past, preterite (whatever that is) passé composé present perfect plus-que-parfait past perfect passé antérieur past anterior imparfait imperfect futur futur antérieur future anterior Edited by Spanky on 10 September 2012 at 4:24pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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Mood (mode
Describes the attitude of the speaker toward the verb – is the action of the verb true, certain, possibility, command, etc. Verbal mood Six moods, divided between personal and impersonal moods (ou modes personnels et modes impersonnels) modes personnels indicative (indicative) subjonctif (subjunctive) conditionnel (conditional) impératif (imperative) modes impersonnels participe (participle) infinitif (infinitive) Edited by Spanky on 10 September 2012 at 4:40pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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Voice (la voix)
Voice - general - actif - subject performs the action of the verb - passif - action of the verb is performed on the subject by an agent - pronominal - subject performs the action of the verb on itself 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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French for "shirt", just because I got it wrong earlier today (thought it was
chemin) wordreference - "shirt" en français une chemise - a man's shirt (feminine noun) un chemisier - a woman's shirt (masculine noun) (some grammarian apparently has an odd sense of humour) du calme! - keep your shirt on! laisser jusqu'à sa dernière chemise - to lose one's shirt vendre père et mère - to sell the shirt off one's back 1 person has voted this message useful | |
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regular -ER verbs
FAC - regular -ER verbs - present indicative conjugation most common -ER verbs, plus watch out for -GER and -CER and -IER 1 person has voted this message useful |
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