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| anamsc Triglot Senior Member Andorra Joined 6208 days ago 296 posts - 382 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Catalan Studies: Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Written), French | Message 25 of 53 07 July 2010 at 4:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I know a lot of people have recommended listening to audio with transcripts and things of that sort, but for me personally, I don't think that works. If you are like me in that way, then what I would recommend is to find a TV show on Youtube (so that you can rewind easily). Then watch it, rewinding every single time you don't understand something and listening to that thing until you get it. Then watch the same episode as many times as you can stand before moving on to a new one. I think you will find that you will be rewinding less and less and often over time.
In the meantime, seek out a conversation partner. This is good because you can always ask them to repeat themselves, explain what they said, etc. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| sydneycarton Newbie United Kingdom Joined 5513 days ago 23 posts - 46 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German | Message 26 of 53 07 July 2010 at 5:04pm | IP Logged | |||||
Yeah, that's very useful for beginners. As far as improving one's listening comprehension, there's no substitute for exposure. It's a relatively slow and frustrating process but the only way you can really do it (in my opinion) is to spend hours listening to TV and radio and so on. And believe me, it's very rewarding (and fun!) when you get to the point where you can watch and understand (the vast majority of) a TV show in your chosen language. It's something I never thought I'd be able to do. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Andy E Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 7108 days ago 1651 posts - 1939 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French | Message 27 of 53 07 July 2010 at 5:16pm | IP Logged | |||||
Can you put your finger on what doesn't work? For me, the transcripts are there to shortcut the process of continually rewinding and relistening to the same segment over and over again - that is they're a massive time-saver. I mean, I could listen to the same thing 20 times but if a transcript means I don't have to, then that's the way I'm going to go. However, I don't consider a segment done until I can listen to it at native speed without the "crutch" and understand everything. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| dolly Senior Member United States Joined 5795 days ago 191 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin | Message 28 of 53 07 July 2010 at 5:28pm | IP Logged | |||||
Even with transcripts there's some rewinding, during the fast parts, to disentangle the words. This is enough work for anyone. And it's easier to look up unknown words with a transcript because it gives you the spelling. Transcripts are a Godsend. They enable you to comprehend recordings in a reasonable amount of time and you get closer to fluency. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| The Real CZ Senior Member United States Joined 5654 days ago 1069 posts - 1495 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Korean | Message 29 of 53 07 July 2010 at 5:35pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I like transcripts, but you're "listening with your eyes," if that makes any sense. It's not challenging the ears much. I agree that it is useful, but to not be overused.
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| dolly Senior Member United States Joined 5795 days ago 191 posts - 376 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Latin | Message 30 of 53 07 July 2010 at 5:47pm | IP Logged | |||||
It's a very good idea to watch programs without any help, from time to time, to gauge your progress. There's this intermediate stage where some sentences are clear, and fast longer sentences are blablabla. It's a great motivator when you know there's just one more hill to climb. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| anamsc Triglot Senior Member Andorra Joined 6208 days ago 296 posts - 382 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Catalan Studies: Arabic (Levantine), Arabic (Written), French | Message 32 of 53 07 July 2010 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
I think there are two reasons why it doesn't work for me. First of all, I often find that when I listen with transcripts, I end up either only listening or (more often) only reading. I have a hard time keeping up with both -- maybe I'm just not a multitasker! The other thing is that I get distracted pretty easily when listening and reading, and so I prefer for there to be something visual to follow along with (other than a text), like a TV show. I much prefer listening to/watching TV shows at the beginning so that there is some visual context to what I'm listening to, and it's just too hard for me to listen in a foreign language, watch what's going on, and read a transcript. Also, I just have more fun when I figure out what they're saying on my own, rather than just looking at a transcript that tells me what it is! For me, that is more rewarding. I want to emphasize that I'm not telling people that they shouldn't listen to something while reading a transcript. It's obviously a great method, since it has worked for so many of you! I'm just trying to give an alternative for those people who do not prefer that method (for one reason or another). 1 person has voted this message useful |
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