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Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5667 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin
| Message 9 of 53 27 March 2011 at 2:13pm | IP Logged |
artemidora wrote:
i have been thinking about my "methods" for studying. I sincerely
think i don't have any special one. i just sit and read, do the exercises on the books,
sometimes write down again the exercises that i liked. i kind of automatically remember
words and grammar, so i don't use any memory technique. i think it has to do with my
power of concentration. i read aloud. i watch movies and listen to music. my
achievement in learning any language depends a lot on the quality of the book i am
using. and if i practice with old books, that's the language i learn. it happened to me
with swedish, i first learn it with a teach yourself edition from the fifties, so i
learnt a rather old fashioned and elegant variant of swedish. many years later i bought
the swedish assimil books and went through them, but i still use an old fashioned
swedish.
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You are clearly being very modest. Perhaps the techniques you describe were sufficient
for some of the more mainstream languages, but your fluency in ancient greek, for
example, cannot have relied on movies and music.
Would you possibly consider making a series of youtube videos, perhaps discussing some
of your own history, and talking in some of the less popular languages and how you
achieved such high levels of accomplishment? I am sure these videos would be both
popular and inspiring.
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| artemidora Super Polyglot Newbie Spain Joined 4994 days ago 27 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Latin, Ancient Greek, Catalan, Hindi, Russian, Swedish, Danish Studies: Greek, Japanese, Welsh, Serbo-Croatian, Swahili, Persian, Ancient Egyptian, Romansh, Tatar, Sanskrit, Lithuanian, Kazakh, Basque, Hawaiian, Arabic (classical), Finnish, Czech, Turkish, Indonesian
| Message 10 of 53 27 March 2011 at 2:13pm | IP Logged |
seems that i will spend two summer months in London, researching for my next book: "Tahzib".
what about some polyglot meeting there this summer?
i would really like to meet other super polyglots, i long for meeting someone like me that is not one of my cousins or my brothers and sister.
now two of my polyglot cousins live in Germany, one in sweden, the other one, the greatest one, live in valencia, spain. my sister lives in madrid. they all speak about five or six languages and know some more. then i have two brothers who know three languages, and one brother who in spite of having studied the same as we did, really never gets to understand nor speak English very well. but his son is my protegé, so he will speak Spanish, English, french, German and Italian, as the rest of us, and i am teaching him ancient egyptian in a children's version, and with time we will see if he decides to study latin and ancient greek. he is used to browse my norwegian books, so i hope he would like to learn it in the future. and my nephews in madrid are already triglots, none older than 12. i have two of them fascinated with Russian and Hindi, we will see what happens in the future...
but i would really like to meet some hepta-, octo-, super polyglots outside my own family.
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| artemidora Super Polyglot Newbie Spain Joined 4994 days ago 27 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Latin, Ancient Greek, Catalan, Hindi, Russian, Swedish, Danish Studies: Greek, Japanese, Welsh, Serbo-Croatian, Swahili, Persian, Ancient Egyptian, Romansh, Tatar, Sanskrit, Lithuanian, Kazakh, Basque, Hawaiian, Arabic (classical), Finnish, Czech, Turkish, Indonesian
| Message 11 of 53 27 March 2011 at 2:34pm | IP Logged |
Ancient greek.
Yes , i have been fascinated with it since i was eleven years old. of course i have studied it for two years in secondary and then five years at university, so i am a specialist in ancient greek. so have been studying and reading ancient greek most of my life. i am passionate for Plutarch, i am a devout of Plotin. I am so used to read Platon, Epictet. I put myself the greek name of Artemidora. So it's been about 30 years of fascination, 25 years of study and practice. enough for proficiency.
please don't forget that we exist, there, at the universities, the students of classical philology. we are like Indiana Jones, but without the adventures. our dreams are filled with ancient languages, strange systems of writing, gods and philosophies of the past. Don't forget that almost every university in western countries have a classical department. and we all study indoeuropean and are perfect future polyglots. because once you study classical philology and get to know the mechanics of indoeuropean languages, it's easy to learn many others. it's quite like mechanics: to understand how a car works, whatever its year of production, and effortlessly you understand also a lorry, a tank, etc... and then jump form car mechanics to boat mechanics or airplane mechanics, that is: to the basic structure of other linguistic families different from indoeuropean. i am so surprised that it looks strange to others, for me it's so normal to become a polyglot when you study ancient languages.
excuse me if i sound desperate. please, it's only my fault, none yours, of course. don't forget there are thousands of greek experts in Europe and America. and teachers for the millions in secondary schools, although maybe not all the secondary school ancient greek teachers are verrrrry proficient.
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| akkadboy Triglot Senior Member France Joined 5406 days ago 264 posts - 497 votes Speaks: French*, English, Yiddish Studies: Latin, Ancient Egyptian, Welsh
| Message 12 of 53 27 March 2011 at 3:55pm | IP Logged |
artemidora wrote:
and i am teaching him ancient egyptian in a children's version |
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Nice to read that !
Could you tell more about that ? which stage of ancient Egyptian do you teach him and which resources do you use ?
Edited by akkadboy on 27 March 2011 at 3:56pm
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| artemidora Super Polyglot Newbie Spain Joined 4994 days ago 27 posts - 39 votes Speaks: Spanish*, French, English, German, Italian, Portuguese, Norwegian, Latin, Ancient Greek, Catalan, Hindi, Russian, Swedish, Danish Studies: Greek, Japanese, Welsh, Serbo-Croatian, Swahili, Persian, Ancient Egyptian, Romansh, Tatar, Sanskrit, Lithuanian, Kazakh, Basque, Hawaiian, Arabic (classical), Finnish, Czech, Turkish, Indonesian
| Message 13 of 53 27 March 2011 at 4:21pm | IP Logged |
I hooked his attention since he was 7 with the CD-rom "hiéroglyphes, écriture et langue des pharaons" that i bought at the souvenir shop at the louvre museum. it's based on the manual by pierre grandet published by Khéops, parisian egyptology center and publishing house.
we have been focusing first on writing and reading for years and a little substantive morphology. the design of the cd-rom fascinates him. now he is ready to advance to the second part and see some verbs.
i improvise and show him sometimes things from "middle egyptian" by james p. allen and the "cours d'égyptien hiéroglyphique" by pierre grandet. We cannot go further than his own language capacity, and he is still learning at school about Spanish morphology and syntax. so i don't explain to him any complex linguistics, i simplify.
i have shown him in detail the hieroglyphs of the white chapel at karnak and of Nefertari's tomb. these real text inscriptions learns Pablito in a passive way, but he recognises a lot, so when confronted with real texts at the archaeological museum or the Debod temple in Madrid, the child recognises many many words and expressions.
i still haven't got the assimil book for egyptian. i really should buy it. i'm sure it good for children too.
i guess that what is important is that you the teacher already know egyptian and then you adapt from your manuals and explain to the child and instantly get feedback of what he understands and what not, and so you make a personal adaptation, and as years go by you repeat and get deeper each year.
Edited by artemidora on 27 March 2011 at 4:49pm
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Fasulye Heptaglot Winner TAC 2012 Moderator Germany fasulyespolyglotblog Joined 5845 days ago 5460 posts - 6006 votes 1 sounds Speaks: German*, DutchC1, EnglishB2, French, Italian, Spanish, Esperanto Studies: Latin, Danish, Norwegian, Turkish Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 53 27 March 2011 at 6:45pm | IP Logged |
I generally would be interested in meeting other polylglots, but I don't differentiate between polyglots, hyperglots, hyperpolyglots and super polyglots. Polyglottery is not a game of competition like "Who speaks the most languages?" but with my Skype experiences conversing with two other polyglots (my thanks to Torbyrne and Amir!) I know that polyglots have many experiences in common no matter how many languages they have learned. There are some topics to discuss like for example "How does one's family deal with polyglottery?" or "How does one integrate all the language study into one's daily life?" My disadvantage is that I am not mobile because I live in poverty, so generally I cannot travel. That means as well that I have to learn and practise my languages in my own country Germany, so I have no advantage of travelling or living abroad.
Fasulye
Edited by Fasulye on 27 March 2011 at 6:48pm
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6468 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 16 of 53 27 March 2011 at 9:17pm | IP Logged |
I'd only be too glad to meet up with any polyglot coming to Berlin, and I did already
meet several forum members while the Expolingua fair took place here (in November 2010
and 2009). While it's just a couple people, lunch is on me.
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