iguanamon Pentaglot Senior Member Virgin Islands Speaks: Ladino Joined 5074 days ago 2237 posts - 6731 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Portuguese, Haitian Creole, Creole (French)
| Message 9 of 91 13 October 2011 at 2:34pm | IP Logged |
s_allard wrote:
I find the wording of this poll very offensive, although I think the author had the best of intentions...To come back to the OP, I think any acrimony can be avoided by simply saying "least intelligible" instead of "worst." |
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I agree. I don't feel that the OP's intent is to create controversy. The unfortunate choice of the word "worst" though, is virtually guaranteed to stoke controversy and acrimony amongst a very diverse group of forum members- most of whom have an accent. All of which could be avoided by a rewording of the topic to remove the value judgement that the word "worst" implies.
Edited by iguanamon on 13 October 2011 at 2:37pm
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July Diglot Senior Member Spain Joined 5085 days ago 113 posts - 208 votes Speaks: English*, SpanishB2 Studies: French
| Message 10 of 91 13 October 2011 at 3:47pm | IP Logged |
Well, I think my accent in Spanish is still pretty lousy, and it's not like I had to
move continents to be this rubbish! The truth is, I'm not rubbish at all, but I judge
myself that way because I don't really like the way my own English accents sounds in
the language.
But at the same time, when people have a comprehensible English level and speak with a
noticeable Spanish accent, I think it sounds rather beautiful - only because I find the
sounds of Spanish pleasing.
So can you judge? Some people find Mandarin Chinese ugly, and don't like the sounds of
Mandarin accents in English. I think they sound rather lovely, I like that the
intonation is so different, I even like the ls and rs! It's not science, it's just an
opinion.
(Iguanamon - I was one of the people on the Spanish accent thread saying Cuban accents
are difficult for me. That doesn't mean I don't love them to bits and hope that one day
I'll spend enough time with them to find them easy to understand. Because it's
my problem I find them difficult, not the beautifully accented Cubans'!)
Edited by July on 13 October 2011 at 3:49pm
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Bao Diglot Senior Member Germany tinyurl.com/pe4kqe5 Joined 5578 days ago 2256 posts - 4046 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: French, Spanish, Japanese, Mandarin
| Message 11 of 91 13 October 2011 at 10:43pm | IP Logged |
The pope.
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mick33 Senior Member United States Joined 5736 days ago 1335 posts - 1632 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Finnish Studies: Thai, Polish, Afrikaans, Hindi, Hungarian, Italian, Spanish, Swedish
| Message 12 of 91 13 October 2011 at 11:29pm | IP Logged |
I cannot vote in this poll because the English accents I have the most trouble with are actually native English accents, such as New York City, Newfoundland and the West Country accent in England. I genuinely like most of the people I've met from these places, but I still struggled mightily with these accents when I first heard them.
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Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5146 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian
| Message 13 of 91 13 October 2011 at 11:54pm | IP Logged |
I may be naive, but I just took the title as " which accent is most difficult to understand for me", but that
would have been too long for a title. Perhaps we could avoid a lot of controversy if we allowed longer titles?
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jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6721 days ago 4250 posts - 5710 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 14 of 91 14 October 2011 at 10:42am | IP Logged |
Second language learners of English? Any other language? Native speakers?
If I'm excluding native speakers, accent in a foreign language is something that Swedes, Norwegians, Germans (and basically any nationality) aren't that good at. Out of 100 learners I'd say a handful actually try to sound English/French/whatever and the rest just apply the phonology and prosody of their native language. Yes. Really. And we (up here in the North) even have access to the English language everyday through TV, radio and so on, and a fair share of other languages since we never dub movies.
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Elexi Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5377 days ago 938 posts - 1839 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French, German, Latin
| Message 15 of 91 14 October 2011 at 7:57pm | IP Logged |
Brummies :)
Edited by Elexi on 14 October 2011 at 9:58pm
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Spanky Senior Member Canada Joined 5768 days ago 1021 posts - 1714 votes Studies: French
| Message 16 of 91 14 October 2011 at 9:21pm | IP Logged |
mick33 wrote:
... the English accents I have the most trouble with are actually native English accents, such as ... Newfoundland... |
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Yep. Screech helps mightily, both in understanding what is being said, and in understanding why they are saying what they are saying.
Edited by Spanky on 14 October 2011 at 9:24pm
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