H.Computatralis Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 6115 days ago 130 posts - 210 votes Speaks: Polish*, French, English Studies: German, Spanish, Latin
| Message 89 of 128 16 November 2011 at 5:05pm | IP Logged |
Don't you think you have enough languages there already? I mean, isn't the 6WC supposed to be a motivator to focus on a single language? ;)
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Ketutar Triglot Newbie Sweden Joined 4594 days ago 20 posts - 31 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: French, Italian, Maltese
| Message 90 of 128 16 November 2011 at 5:06pm | IP Logged |
H.Computatralis wrote:
Don't you think you have enough languages there already? ;) |
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Enough? What's that? Can you eat it? :-D
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PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5184 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish
| Message 91 of 128 16 November 2011 at 9:03pm | IP Logged |
Ketutar wrote:
H.Computatralis wrote:
Don't you think you have enough languages there already? ;) |
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Enough? What's that? Can you eat it? :-D |
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Hehe. No way could I concentrate on just one language for 6 weeks. Or a day.
Still wondering how Tok Pisin can be said, as you are with yours. Not that I've done more than 10 minutes on it, luckily. It's odd it's not in the 2-letter list, seeing as it's a national language of Papua New Guinea.
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Ketutar Triglot Newbie Sweden Joined 4594 days ago 20 posts - 31 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: French, Italian, Maltese
| Message 92 of 128 17 November 2011 at 11:10am | IP Logged |
PaulLambeth wrote:
Still wondering how Tok Pisin can be said, as you are with yours. Not that I've done more than 10 minutes on it, luckily. It's odd it's not in the 2-letter list, seeing as it's a national language of Papua New Guinea. |
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That IS weird... Perhaps it's the "Pidgin status".
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PaulLambeth Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5184 days ago 244 posts - 315 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Icelandic, Hindi, Irish
| Message 93 of 128 17 November 2011 at 5:13pm | IP Logged |
Ketutar wrote:
PaulLambeth wrote:
Still wondering how Tok Pisin can be said, as you are with yours. Not that I've done more than 10 minutes on it, luckily. It's odd it's not in the 2-letter list, seeing as it's a national language of Papua New Guinea. |
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That IS weird... Perhaps it's the "Pidgin status". |
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I suspect it's due to its distance from Europe and lack of a decent literary history. Additionally, I don't think there's a full bilingual dictionary out - the best I've seen for English is incomplete - and there's few resources for it. It doesn't have a pidgin status; it's a fully developed creole, but people historically referred to it as Tok Pisin ("talk pidgin", or pidgin language) so it's kept the name.
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Ketutar Triglot Newbie Sweden Joined 4594 days ago 20 posts - 31 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English, Swedish Studies: French, Italian, Maltese
| Message 94 of 128 18 November 2011 at 8:55am | IP Logged |
PaulLambeth wrote:
It doesn't have a pidgin status; it's a fully developed creole... |
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I know next to nothing about Tok Pisin, so I won't argue with you. :-)
What I mean with "pidgin status" is not that Tok Pisin is a pidgin language, but that perhaps the people who decide which languages get to ISO 639-1 list think about it as "it's just another of these made up thingies and not a real language, so we won't add it to the list." You can call that eurocentricity, ignorance, what ever. I call it "pidgin status" within quotation marks.
Now, I don't know who makes these lists and how they decide which languages they take on the list, I don't even know which languages ARE on the list - perhaps languages like Aramaic and Tok Pisin ARE on the list, but we just don't know the code and can't find it, and guessing it would be too much work for everyone...
I don't know.
What I know is that it is weird that Tok Pisin is not on the lists, as it is recognized as a language, it has official status and over million speakers,
when they have put on the list languages like Interlingue (Occidental), a conlang which hasn't been of much interest to anyone since the middle of last century...
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Tamise Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom jllrr.wordpress.com/ Joined 5054 days ago 115 posts - 161 votes Speaks: English*, German, Dutch Studies: French, Japanese, Spanish
| Message 95 of 128 18 November 2011 at 11:21am | IP Logged |
Tok Pisin has an ISO 639-2 code of tpi, but no ISO 639-1 code (see http://www.loc.gov/standards/iso639-2/php/code_list.php). Ditto for Aramaic with arc.
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hribecek Triglot Senior Member Czech Republic Joined 5160 days ago 1243 posts - 1458 votes Speaks: English*, Czech, Spanish Studies: Italian, Polish, Slovak, Hungarian, Toki Pona, Russian
| Message 96 of 128 22 November 2011 at 9:32pm | IP Logged |
I've just realised that several posts ago I mis-wrote a tweet.
I wrote - @6WCBot #Hungarian speaking 30 minutes
Because I missed the # before speaking, I now have 30 minutes in a column named 'rest' instead.
Is there any way I can change the 30 minutes 'rest' to 30 minutes 'speaking'?
I tried doing the 'undo' process but this just deleted my previous post instead of the one I wanted.
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