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Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6281 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 113 of 128 12 December 2011 at 6:55pm | IP Logged |
H.Computatralis wrote:
I'm kind of a slow reader so that challenge would just depress
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It's up to you, but: everyone is a slow reader in a foreign language. Especially the vast
majority of Tadoku participants, who are learning Japanese. Can you imagine reading
Japanese as quickly as English? ;-)
For anyone who wants to quickly improve his reading speed (quickly = within less than an
hour), I can really recommend
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/07/30/speed-readin g-and-accelerated-learning/
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6408 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 114 of 128 12 December 2011 at 7:02pm | IP Logged |
pesahson wrote:
I feel very much like H.Computatralis. This challenge really motivated me. I hope I will keep it up at this pace until the next challenge, but I sort of got the hang of it so maybe I won't go back to my unsystematic ways.
Serpent wrote:
Omg I got a crazy idea. In August I'll do the 6 week challenge for the language of the country that wins Euro 2012! Unless it's Russia, England or France (don't like French). If it's one of them I'll do the language of the runner-up country. |
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I like that idea. I wouldn't do it myself but it's an interesting way of choosing a language! |
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:) Only because it's Europe hehe. I'd not dare to do that at the world cup :P and I have to admit I do hope Greece won't win it.
and did I mention I'll do Polish for my May 6WC? pre-tournament excitement yay.
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6408 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 115 of 128 12 December 2011 at 7:06pm | IP Logged |
Sprachprofi wrote:
H.Computatralis wrote:
I'm kind of a slow reader so that challenge would just depress
me. |
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It's up to you, but: everyone is a slow reader in a foreign language. Especially the vast
majority of Tadoku participants, who are learning Japanese. Can you imagine reading
Japanese as quickly as English? ;-)
For anyone who wants to quickly improve his reading speed (quickly = within less than an
hour), I can really recommend
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/07/30/speed-readin g-and-accelerated-learning/ |
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doesn't this take awat the joy of reading, though? I'd rather read randomly like the AJATT guy recommends than treat books like fastfood...
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| Sprachprofi Nonaglot Senior Member Germany learnlangs.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6281 days ago 2608 posts - 4866 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Esperanto, Greek, Mandarin, Latin, Dutch, Italian Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Written), Swahili, Indonesian, Japanese, Modern Hebrew, Portuguese
| Message 116 of 128 12 December 2011 at 7:13pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
doesn't this take awat the joy of reading, though? I'd rather read
randomly like the AJATT guy recommends than treat books like fastfood... |
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If you actually speed-read, then yes. However, after the speed-reading exercise, my
natural, relaxed reading speed was also faster than before, while I was still taking in
every word.
Think about it: in our native language, we naturally read faster than in a foreign
language. However, that doesn't mean that when we increase our foreign language reading
speed up to native-language levels that we'll stop enjoying the read. In fact, that
should increase the enjoyment.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6250 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 117 of 128 12 December 2011 at 9:00pm | IP Logged |
Serpent wrote:
Sprachprofi wrote:
H.Computatralis wrote:
I'm kind of a slow reader so that challenge would just depress
me. |
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It's up to you, but: everyone is a slow reader in a foreign language. Especially the vast
majority of Tadoku participants, who are learning Japanese. Can you imagine reading
Japanese as quickly as English? ;-)
For anyone who wants to quickly improve his reading speed (quickly = within less than an
hour), I can really recommend
http://www.fourhourworkweek.com/blog/2009/07/30/speed-readin g-and-accelerated-learning/ |
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doesn't this take awat the joy of reading, though? I'd rather read randomly like the AJATT guy recommends than treat books like fastfood... |
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Within reason, I enjoy books more while reading them more quickly.
This doesn't apply to anything extremely heavy (say, a book I'm actually learning new branches of math or new algorithms from, or something which impels me to do some philosophical reflection). But for most books, I find reading quicker leads to more comprehension and more enjoyment.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5192 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian
| Message 118 of 128 12 December 2011 at 9:37pm | IP Logged |
To me, it's like food -- I find no enjoyment in rushing through it.
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| Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6250 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 119 of 128 13 December 2011 at 3:14am | IP Logged |
Arekkusu wrote:
To me, it's like food -- I find no enjoyment in rushing through it. |
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Likewise. I just find the concept of reading most books slowly to be like that of spending at least an hour on a salad, making sure to chew each bite a hundred times: after a certain point, it becomes truly off-putting.
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| smallwhite Pentaglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5119 days ago 537 posts - 1045 votes Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin, French, Spanish
| Message 120 of 128 13 December 2011 at 8:11am | IP Logged |
I'd prefer 2 salads in an hour. And a soup if there's still time left.
I believe the point of increasing your reading speed is to have things exactly the same - comprehension, enjoyment - in less time. If you read faster but enjoy less, you didn't really read faster as they had meant, you only skimmed instead of read.
Kind of like, when you're a junior staff, you earn $100 a day. When you're more experienced, you earn $200 a day - not because you worked twice as hard, sweated twice as much, or worked twice the hours, but because you're now twice as capable.
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