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tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4519 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 41 of 44 17 April 2013 at 4:26pm | IP Logged |
You can memorize the declension endings using Anki, but I find this pointless as
memorising the endings doesn't imply any useful knowledge of how to produce it in speech.
I've tried it with prepositions for Russian and found it ineffective.
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| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4345 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German
| Message 42 of 44 17 April 2013 at 4:38pm | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
You can memorize the declension endings using Anki, but I find this pointless as
memorising the endings doesn't imply any useful knowledge of how to produce it in speech.
I've tried it with prepositions for Russian and found it ineffective. |
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This fits with an earlier discussion about how useful explicit grammar facts are in generating correct speech.
I can't see how they can be used on the fly to generate useful speech, but I can see how they are useful for parsing sentences when reading, perhaps more clearly recognizing aspects of grammar as you use the language, and perhaps as a way of giving yourself useful error feedback when you produce wrong output.
Perhaps it's just the nerdy side of me but I like to know how the rules for declination and the like without having to pick up a book.
I found Anki actually quite helpful for prepositions in German, but mostly from the 'sentence cards' not from explicit rules (though it doesn't hurt to have the various possible meanings of a preposition pop into your head, or to know explicitly that a particularly preposition is always associated with a particular case).
Edited by patrickwilken on 17 April 2013 at 4:38pm
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4519 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish
| Message 43 of 44 17 April 2013 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
I put up tables for grammar on reference sheets and notes in notebooks; I just don't use
anki for it as I like to have "overview" tables. Anki would be fragmented; I use it for
irregular instances I need to drill, not for grammatical principles.
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| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4345 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German
| Message 44 of 44 17 April 2013 at 5:01pm | IP Logged |
tarvos wrote:
I put up tables for grammar on reference sheets and notes in notebooks; I just don't use anki for it as I like to have "overview" tables. Anki would be fragmented; I use it for irregular instances I need to drill, not for grammatical principles. |
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That's interesting. I just keep all the tables in my grammar books, and use Anki for notes that I want to remember.
I should say that as I am not yet fluent in German so I am not even sure my methods work for me, perhaps I am using Anki wrongly, but I really like the simplicity of only having one place where all my notes are.
Having said that if I did have a computer crash and all my backups were destroyed it wouldn't really be the end of the World.
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