furyou_gaijin Senior Member Japan Joined 6188 days ago 540 posts - 631 votes Speaks: Latin*
| Message 25 of 46 02 October 2007 at 1:33pm | IP Logged |
Polyphemes wrote:
Did any of you ever have a look at his blog?
It's at http://www.stujay.blogspot.com/ and I think it is totally amazing to read! |
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He's back and his story on learning Vietnamese from scratch is absolutely amazing and very inspirational! Although
in his case it hardly is 'from scratch' but this methodology would apply for anyone studying similar languages, i.e.
Polish from Russian, Dutch from German, Spanish from Italian, etc...
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edwin Triglot Senior Member Canada towerofconfusi&Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6266 days ago 160 posts - 183 votes 9 sounds Speaks: Cantonese*, English, Mandarin Studies: French, Spanish, Portuguese
| Message 26 of 46 02 October 2007 at 3:10pm | IP Logged |
apparition wrote:
He's certainly got a leg up on Ziad Fazah, at least when it comes to televised performance! |
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Agreed! And he is honest in the way that he never claims to be totally fluent in all the languages he knows.
And contrary to the belief of some language learners out there, he demonstrates that learning a language does need hard work!
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alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7023 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish
| Message 27 of 46 02 October 2007 at 3:15pm | IP Logged |
I find Stuart really inspirational. I have sent links to his Youtube video to others and all they could say was WOW! This is coming from some who speak three+ languages.
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mcjon77 Senior Member United States Joined 6413 days ago 193 posts - 248 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, Arabic (Egyptian), French
| Message 28 of 46 02 October 2007 at 3:55pm | IP Logged |
I checked out Stuart's Blog and it really is very good. In one of the posts he gives you a day by day breakdown of how he is learning Vietnamese from scratch. It is quite interesting to see his learning strategy.
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xtremelingo Trilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6089 days ago 398 posts - 515 votes Speaks: English*, Hindi*, Punjabi* Studies: German, French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 29 of 46 03 October 2007 at 6:45pm | IP Logged |
He is very realistic, and this is what makes him admirable to me.
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apparition Octoglot Senior Member United States Joined 6452 days ago 600 posts - 667 votes Speaks: English*, Arabic (Written), French, Arabic (Iraqi), Portuguese, German, Italian, Spanish Studies: Pashto
| Message 30 of 46 05 October 2007 at 7:30pm | IP Logged |
Here's one of his responses to a question on a fan's blog:
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How many days do I spend learning? In my classes I talk about creating an environment that teaches you around the clock rather than thinking you have to put aside so many hours a day to learn a language. It’s a bit easier for expats over here in Thailand to do it as the language that they’re learning (Thai) is spoken all around them. When I’m learning a language that isn’t spoken in my immediate environment, I create that environment as best I can around me. Buy as many books as I can, internet radio (used to use Short Wave radio a lot more before the internet), MSN / Skype with people who speak the language I’m learning and then ohh yes.. the bathroom! Mine is a library! To give you an idea of what I’ve read so far since this morning -
woke up at 5:30 AM - read a few blogs and internet articles on Vedic Sanskrit and Pali
7:00′ish - reviewing my old sanskrit books - got frustrated ’cause the pages were all falling out
09:00 - tried to develop a system that would make it easy for Thais to learn the Sanskrit case system easily (teaching sanskrit to some yoga instructors here in BKK at the moment)
13:00 went for lunch - took books with me on Pwo and Pali to read at stop lights on the way to the restaurant
14:30 - went into bookstore in town to find a new version of my Sanskrit book that was falling to pieces - was out of stock, but bought 3 more books - Pali Grammar, Advanced Italian grammar and Cambodian
16:00 spent about 2 hours reading through the 3 books
19:00 - went to dinner - took the pali with me and read over dinner
21:00 - now writing this blog comment - about to logoff and read my new cambodian book for about an hour
In the meantime, I’ve had telephone conversations with clients and friends in Hong Kong, China, Indonesia and a Swedish group that are hiring me to run a workshop on cross-cultural communication. With all of these people, used the various relevant languages. …
So - how much time do I spend a day? It’s my life. I’ve built my life up around things that allow me to use the languages - people now pay me to do it!
As for remembering vocab, I use mnemonics, pegging and other ’standard’ tools, but also link meanings into sounds, colours, shapes, emotions, experiences and other words and extralinguistic things that I already have from other languages. When I meet a new word, in most cases I can relate it to another word(s) that I know - I can probably figure the etymology - and understand the sound / meaning shifts that have occured, and will then look for other related meanings.
Example - this is one story i used to remember the Indonesian days of the week when i was a kid-
On Sunday, people mingle (Minggu) at church,
On Monday, people are back to sinnin’ (Senin)
On Tuesday like Mario the Italian from Mario Bros shaking his hands in the air, they say ‘At lasta (Selasa)- Monday’s over)
On Wednesday, to cleanse the sins from Monday, the Rabi (Rabu) Comes (Kamis) and performs a strange sin cleansing ceremony by jumping up and down vigorously on a mat (Jumat)- just in time for the Sabbath (Sabtu) and going to church to mingle (Minggu) again on Sunday -
Sunday - Minggu
Monday - Senin
Tuesday - Selasa
Wednesday - Rabu
Thursday - Kamis
Friday - Jumat
Saturday - Sabtu
Sunday - Minggu
I t only takes a few seconds to put these kinds of stories together - and they stick! (try to go over all the stories i make up each day as I’m dozing off to sleep each night … and when I wake up in the middle of the night)… actually, sometimes they keep me from sleeping!
When I’m in my element, I can remember a lot of stuff… but at the same time, I might forget where I placed my car keys.
Hope this helps
Stu. |
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Link to that page: http://languagegeek.wordpress.com/2007/03/31/stuart-jay-raj- speaker-15-or-so-languages/
Edited by apparition on 05 October 2007 at 7:33pm
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xtremelingo Trilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 6089 days ago 398 posts - 515 votes Speaks: English*, Hindi*, Punjabi* Studies: German, French, Arabic (Written)
| Message 31 of 46 08 October 2007 at 8:11pm | IP Logged |
Oh and he's half E.Indian. :)
Edited by xtremelingo on 08 October 2007 at 8:18pm
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JasonChoi Diglot Senior Member Korea, South Joined 6161 days ago 274 posts - 298 votes Speaks: English*, Korean Studies: Mandarin, Cantonese, Latin
| Message 32 of 46 19 October 2007 at 11:20am | IP Logged |
He just uploaded a new video:
Stuart Jay Raj on The Tonight Show with Tom Mintier
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