John Smith Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Australia Joined 5843 days ago 396 posts - 542 votes Speaks: English*, Czech*, Spanish Studies: German
| Message 41 of 46 16 June 2008 at 9:22am | IP Logged |
After watching I didn't have the feeling that he is as profficient as he claims to be. I noticed that he uses a lot of short cuts. I know that he was translating on the spot but a bilingual person would in my opinion do a better job. For example, when translating She is not unattractive a short cut would be She is ugly.
I don't want to sound like I'm putting him down or anything. His language are abilities are amazing. I guess that native like fluency is an ideal we can strive for and probably never reach. If anything it encouraged me to learn more languages as one thing stopping me is the fear that I won't reach native like fluency.
Edited by John Smith on 16 June 2008 at 9:27am
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Gilgamesh Tetraglot Senior Member England Joined 6043 days ago 452 posts - 468 votes 14 sounds Speaks: Dutch, English, German, French Studies: Polish
| Message 42 of 46 16 June 2008 at 9:57am | IP Logged |
- One cannot accurately judge another person's level of proficiency in a language by nit-picking on one sentence the person says
- Apart from Spanish, you don't seem to be proficient in any of the languages he professes to speak - how can you therefore be sure what he said was incorrect or, as you say, a "short-cut"?
- He appears on a talk-show, having to show-case his abilities to hundreds of thousands of people watching and switching quickly between them.
My point is: if you want to evaluate somebody's language skills it's best not to do so based on one appearance on some talk-show where that individual translates random 'funny' sentences "on the fly".
How come most people start picking on other people's abilities rather than being inspired by what this guy has to say, for example? There is so much more to be learnt than there is to shake your head about.
Anyway, this is not really aimed at you, John_Smith, it's just a general observation I make. I therefore ask you not to be offended nor to see this as an attack directed at you. I normally keep kind of quiet about this kind of thing.
He has an interesting blog by the way - http://stujay.blogspot.com .
Edited by Gilgamesh on 16 June 2008 at 10:11am
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TheMatthias Diglot Senior Member United StatesRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6047 days ago 105 posts - 124 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: Mandarin
| Message 43 of 46 16 June 2008 at 10:49am | IP Logged |
Definitely an inspiration! This guy is amazing! I think that we should all show respect to him, regardless of any
piffling mistakes that he made.
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Deniz Bilingual Heptaglot Groupie Czech RepublicRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6620 days ago 94 posts - 97 votes Speaks: Czech*, Slovak*, EnglishC2, German, Italian, Spanish, FrenchB2 Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), Portuguese, Indonesian, Persian
| Message 44 of 46 16 June 2008 at 2:30pm | IP Logged |
Wow, I am deeply impressed. This guy has some great skills. The truth is that as soon as one chooses a carreer which is tightly bound to languages and language aquisition, good method, devotion and a lot a flair can result in somthing that we can see on his videos.
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leosmith Senior Member United States Joined 6351 days ago 2365 posts - 3804 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Tagalog
| Message 45 of 46 16 June 2008 at 11:44pm | IP Logged |
John Smith wrote:
when translating She is not unattractive a short cut would be She is ugly. |
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I think it means she's not ugly. Was this just a typo?
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thecatat Newbie Thailand Joined 5752 days ago 26 posts - 40 votes Speaks: English*
| Message 46 of 46 11 August 2008 at 6:42am | IP Logged |
Stuart Jay Raj is amazing, as well as entertaining. I took his Cracking Thai Fundamentals course in Bangkok shortly
after moving here. Every once in awhile I go back through his course materials. Great stuff. But I don't think he's
teaching it at the moment (I'm on his email list).
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