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| pushkin Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5519 days ago 49 posts - 60 votes  Speaks: French*, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), German, Modern Hebrew | Message 121 of 174 09 February 2013 at 10:32am | IP Logged | |||||
For this new edition I don't think that caricatural and imitated accents can be considered as regional... The worst concerns the 80th lesson " entre lusitana e brasileira". In this lesson you'll see "vos ides" that is uncommun, the voice of the "portuguese" (????) woman doesn't sound at all from Portugal and it seems to be more a faked accent, I think one of the two Brazilian female speakers tried to imitate portuguese accent. I don't mention the poor quality of the dialogs, they are moronic... Edited by pushkin on 09 February 2013 at 10:40am 4 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| pushkin Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5519 days ago 49 posts - 60 votes Speaks: French*, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), German, Modern Hebrew | Message 122 of 174 09 February 2013 at 10:49am | IP Logged | |||||
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Allthough the new version of Brazilian portuguese is a "failure", the new editions
for other languages are acceptable except the English and Spanish ones. L'Allemand, le Catalan are pretty good, l'Italien is too light. The new advanced courses are better than the olders. 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Medulin Tetraglot Senior Member Croatia Joined 4668 days ago 1199 posts - 2192 votes Speaks: Croatian*, English, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Norwegian, Hindi, Nepali | Message 123 of 174 09 February 2013 at 9:48pm | IP Logged | |||||
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In first editions of TY Portuguese, Portuguese speakers were used to fake the Brazilian dialog.
In ''American Headway '' (by Oxford University Press), British voices fake the American accent. It's pretty common... Edited by Medulin on 09 February 2013 at 9:49pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5395 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 124 of 174 11 February 2013 at 3:07pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Common or not, it's not ideal to learn a new language from someone faking an accent!
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| pushkin Tetraglot Groupie France Joined 5519 days ago 49 posts - 60 votes Speaks: French*, Portuguese, Italian, Spanish Studies: Russian, Arabic (Written), German, Modern Hebrew | Message 125 of 174 11 February 2013 at 5:40pm | IP Logged | |||||
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It's much preferable to use the older Assimil brazilian course ( le Brésilien Sans Peine ), but unfortunatly it doesn't exist in English.
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| flydream777 Triglot Senior Member United States Joined 6491 days ago 77 posts - 102 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, French Studies: German, Russian, Portuguese, Mandarin, Greek, Hungarian, Armenian, Irish, Italian | Message 126 of 174 13 February 2013 at 2:32am | IP Logged | |||||
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Anything that gives examples of regional accents is beneficial in my opinion. Most courses contain speakers
"faking" the neutral accepted standard anyway... But I understand why people could issue with it. Why are the dialogs "moronic?" 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| alang Diglot Senior Member Canada Joined 7221 days ago 563 posts - 757 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish | Message 127 of 174 23 May 2013 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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The Brazilian Portuguese for Spanish speakers is available on pre- order, but not from the official site in France. I suggest members to look it up from other merchants or contact Assimil by emailing them. Even though I find the program helpful, I will also email them concerning the accents on the program. I prefer native speakers of the language for a genuine model of imitation. I will be referring to the post by Pushkin at the top of the page. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4707 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 128 of 174 17 June 2013 at 11:03am | IP Logged | |||||
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In a troll move towards Anglophones, Spanish and Portuguese are now available for Dutch
speakers from Assimil. It leaves one wondering why Dutch gets a Portuguese course, but English doesn't... (although you won't hear me complaining!) Edited by tarvos on 17 June 2013 at 11:03am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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