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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 153 of 766 11 May 2014 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | ||
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If no one is on top and you all only care about competing against yourselves, why are you so fiercely defending the change?
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| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4907 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 154 of 766 11 May 2014 at 8:58pm | IP Logged | ||
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While I think the idea of consistency rankings is good in principle, doesn't the weekly streak that surrealix is implementing already fit the bill? If you have something else in mind, that might just get more complicated. We could barely come up with the definition of a book; it will take us many pages of discussion to come to a definition of what consistency means.
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| kanewai Triglot Senior Member United States justpaste.it/kanewai Joined 4887 days ago 1386 posts - 3054 votes Speaks: English*, French, Marshallese Studies: Italian, Spanish | Message 155 of 766 11 May 2014 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | ||
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I'm saying stop arguing about everything and all the time.
Make your point once. Some ideas will be incorporated. Some won't. This is true for all of us - not everything I've suggested or wanted made the final cut. I accept this. It sometimes seems that you take it personally if your ideas don't make the cut. It's not healthy for you, or for the forum. We make our point, and move on. Edited by kanewai on 11 May 2014 at 9:07pm 9 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6595 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 156 of 766 11 May 2014 at 9:13pm | IP Logged | ||
AFAIU it's mostly about keeping track of the past streaks, and possibly having them affect the ranking. It's not that I take it personally. Previously it was about having completely different values compared to Cristina, but now I've accepted that. However, the current rules encourage burnout and make the permission to do multiple challenges or half-challenges nearly pointless. Just like Cristina doesn't want newbies to think it's normal to do many languages for the challenge, I don't want anyone to think it's not normal to learn many languages, whether you do the Super Challenge in them or not. Edited by Serpent on 11 May 2014 at 9:44pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4907 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 157 of 766 11 May 2014 at 9:27pm | IP Logged | ||
This is the discussion thread, to discuss the challenge in general. The update thread is where some people are writing about what they've read and watched. For myself, I'm using my log to write about the books I've read and films I've watched. There have been some very worthwhile discussions: Peter Mollenburg started an interesting discussion about the value of films. He got some very good responses, and I found new and useful information by reading and participating in the discussion. I was a bit disappointed that discussion got swallowed up by the controversy about ranking, and so I continued my thoughts on his log. I have to agree, the most recent discussion about ranking hasn't been very pleasant. But perhaps that's just something we have to go through to polish and shape this marvellous challenge. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Kerrie Senior Member United States justpaste.it/Kerrie2 Joined 5393 days ago 1232 posts - 1740 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish | Message 158 of 766 11 May 2014 at 9:28pm | IP Logged | ||
I think there's another thread for updates and reaching milestones, but I'm game here. :D The first book I read was the Spanish version of Dark Places by Gillian Flynn. Her latest book (Gone Girl) has gotten a lot of attention lately, but for some reason this one grabbed me first. On one hand, it's a good story. A little girl's family is brutally murdered, and her older brother is put in jail for it. Twenty-some years later, as the donation monies are running out, she starts working with "justice groups" that want to prove her brother innocent. At first, she is just doing it for the money, but as she learns more, I think she starts to want to know the truth. There's lots of violence (obviously), lots of darkness, Satanic crap, drugs, and more stuff that is typically not my thing. From the beginning, it seemed obvious that the older brother didn't do it. And as you go further into the story, you kind of wonder. Maybe he did. The author goes back and forth between Libby's life now (and the investigation), and the days leading up to that fateful night. I kept reading because I wanted to know who did it. But I'm not sure I enjoyed the journey - if that makes any sense. It was gruesome and warped. I suppose if you like that kinda stuff, it was a good book. I suppose it was a good book anyway, since it kept me turning pages until I figured out who did it. It was certainly good for some colorful vocabulary. :D I'm currently reading (the translation of) The Historian by Elizabeth Kostova. I'm only about 100 pages into it, so I'll let you know more as I get further. :D I'm watching Revolution dubbed in Spanish. I started watching the series last year, when there were only the first ten episodes out. It was interesting. The whole post-apocalyptic thing. Some scientific nerds basically turned the lights off (worldwide) on purpose. To save the world or some nonsense. But they can turn them back on, if they want to. At least, that was the plan (and we all know how that goes!) The first half of season one looked promising, enough to bring me back to see what happened (albeit more than a year later). I probably should have stayed away, because it just got bad, then worse. I've only got a handful of episodes left, so I will probably finish them. Thank God they cancelled the show after the second season. :D I just ordered the whole Buffy series off eBay for $45. My daughter wants to learn Spanish, and even though it didn't work so well with the +1 challenge last fall, I'm thinking if we watch something fun together, it might give her a boost. I'm hoping to work through Michel Thomas with her over the course of the summer, plus watch TV. She wants to watched Charmed, too. Between the two series, that's 15 seasons of TV shows to watch. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| Stelle Bilingual Triglot Senior Member Canada tobefluent.com Joined 4142 days ago 949 posts - 1686 votes Speaks: French*, English*, Spanish Studies: Tagalog | Message 159 of 766 11 May 2014 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | ||
Hahahaha! I'm actually laughing out loud over here. We bingeV-watched that show on Netflix last year. And I'm not sure why…it really stinks!!!! But then, I openly admit that I'm a sucker for anything post-apocalyptic and/or dystopian. If you're looking for a Spanish-language TV show in that vein, I'd (almost sort of) recommend La Fuga: La Fuga / The Escape Basic storyline: near future jail on a defunct oil rig houses criminals - and political dissidents, of course. Woman becomes a guard - but only to break her husband out of jail. It starts out really compelling. The last 2 or 3 episodes are pretty terrible, but I'd still say that I enjoyed the series overall. How's that for a convincing review? Ha! No, but really, I did enjoy it. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4866 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian | Message 160 of 766 11 May 2014 at 10:04pm | IP Logged | ||
That seems likely, at least in case of those who haven't logged any books yet, including myself. There's definitely always been an imbalance between how much effort the film part takes compared to books. In the end, only time will tell who put in the most effort. And regarding how different everyone's level is that's not even to say that those who complete the challenge will be the ones who put in the most effort. The measuring system will never be completely fair, I think that would pretty much be impossible with this challenge. But I agree with the statement that the current default system seems more in tune with the way the challenge was intended originally. But I'd also be cool with a random order default sorting (maybe excluding the people/languages who haven't logged anything yet) where everyone can just click whatever pleases or motivates them the most. 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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