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Serpent
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Message 233 of 766

14 May 2014 at 5:47am | IP Logged

If you just want to view your own scores easily, you can bookmark your user page instead of the main one :)
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Message 234 of 766

14 May 2014 at 6:45am | IP Logged

Kerrie wrote:

LOL. I regret to inform you that I don't have a dog. A cat who likes to sit on my computer desk and watch
Kdramas with me, but alas. No dog.

As requested three very large energetic dogs on the way to you (express post). All the best Kerrie, you're
such a nice person looking after all those dogs... See you you for SC 2025!!
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Message 235 of 766

14 May 2014 at 8:27am | IP Logged

Serpent wrote:

If you just want to view your own scores easily, you can bookmark your
user page instead of the main one :)

I could do that, but I also like to see the
list of everyone, and I don't look at my own graph or finished list much. :)
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Serpent
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Message 236 of 766

15 May 2014 at 2:48pm | IP Logged

Finally found the quote I was referring to, about changing your mind.

Quote:

To have most people motivated, I think it would be best to have them ranked by most films/literature done in one language, and when that was completed in a second language.

Just have to point out that it's unrealistic. I don't mean the ranking but the achievements. Unless you're already fluent in a language, it's nearly impossible to complete one challenge (especially a full one) and only then start another and also complete it (even a half challenge). That contradicts the "marathon" thing. You don't want anyone to attempt too much, I don't want anyone to think they can neatly divide the 20 months and complete one challenge at a time. I'm iffy even about "do the videos now and start reading next year".

Solfrid Cristin wrote:

Last time over there were less than 10 people who succeeded in one single language. There are perhaps three-four people on the whole forum who can pull off studying a whole bunch.

I will not set up everyone for failure.
...
I do multiple languages myself, but if all you do is log every little bit of study in every language you do, then there is no point.

May I ask why? (referring to the last thing)

As for the first part, it depends on how you define failure. I think anyone using the challenge to make significant progress is a winner, especially if they earned at least one star in most of their languages. Many participants will never earn a star, let alone complete a full challenge, even if they sign up with just one. Why single out those with what you previously called "five super failures"? (I know you weren't attacking me. I'm not attacking you either)

I suppose my main point is that you keep singling me out as one of the few who can do many challenges. But most people aren't learning that many languages anyway. Maybe I'm almost the only one who can do 8-10 languages, but many more people could do 4-5. Whether one goes for 2-3 full challenges or 4-5 half challenges should be a personal choice.
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Message 237 of 766

15 May 2014 at 3:59pm | IP Logged

A big thank you to Solfrid Cristina for starting
the super challenge !!!
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Message 238 of 766

15 May 2014 at 6:45pm | IP Logged

Serpent wrote:

Finally found the quote I was referring to, about changing your mind.

Quote:

To have most people motivated, I think it would be best to have them ranked by most films/literature done in one language, and when that was completed in a second language.

You misunderstood what Cristina wrote. It is not to be taken as sequential. You can be working on two languages, and the bot ranks you by best language. But when one language is complete, the bot then looks to your second language.

Interestingly, your quote from Cristina is almost exactly what surrealix implemented. So in fact he was right to have done it that way, and didn't need a lot of complaining about it.
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Message 239 of 766

15 May 2014 at 7:28pm | IP Logged

Except that last time Cristina said something completely different.

Also, this does assume completing the challenges one by one. I'm on track with most of my video challenges but...
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Solfrid Cristin
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Message 240 of 766

15 May 2014 at 10:52pm | IP Logged

Serpent wrote:

Finally found the quote I was referring to, about changing your mind.

Quote:

To have most people motivated, I think it would be best to have them ranked by most films/literature
done in one language, and when that was completed in a second language.

Just have to point out that it's unrealistic. I don't mean the ranking but the achievements. Unless you're
already fluent in a language, it's nearly impossible to complete one challenge (especially a full one) and only
then start another and also complete it (even a half challenge). That contradicts the "marathon" thing. You
don't want anyone to attempt too much, I don't want anyone to think they can neatly divide the 20 months and
complete one challenge at a time. I'm iffy even about "do the videos now and start reading next year".

Solfrid Cristin wrote:

Last time over there were less than 10 people who succeeded in one single
language. There are perhaps three-four people on the whole forum who can pull off studying a whole bunch.

I will not set up everyone for failure.
...
I do multiple languages myself, but if all you do is log every little bit of study in every language you do, then
there is no point.

May I ask why? (referring to the last thing)

As for the first part, it depends on how you define failure. I think anyone using the challenge to make
significant progress is a winner, especially if they earned at least one star in most of their languages. Many
participants will never earn a star, let alone complete a full challenge, even if they sign up with just one. Why
single out those with what you previously called "five super failures"? (I know you weren't attacking me. I'm
not attacking you either)

I suppose my main point is that you keep singling me out as one of the few who can do many challenges. But
most people aren't learning that many languages anyway. Maybe I'm almost the only one who can do 8-10
languages, but many more people could do 4-5. Whether one goes for 2-3 full challenges or 4-5 half
challenges should be a personal choice.

I am sorry, but I do not have the energy for this right now. Have fun with the challenge :-)

Edited by Solfrid Cristin on 15 May 2014 at 11:43pm

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