redflag Senior Member Australia Joined 3844 days ago 123 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French
| Message 65 of 86 02 February 2015 at 11:36pm | IP Logged |
Thanks Jeffers and PM.
Yesterday I ordered Assimil L'Indonesien (book only, no audio) - ie learning
Indonesian from the base of French with the probably wildly over-ambitious notion I
could knock over both my languages at the one time that way. Yes,probably absurd. But
anyway it's on it's way. I also re-remembered that while there is no Indonesian from
English on Duolingo, there is English from Indonesian - "the reverse tree" so I'm
having a go at that. It's actually a bit hard but I'm very hopeful it could be useful.
No progress on my French novel as I've lost my Kindle, when I say lost - it's
somewhere is my very small apartment so I'll find it but ... Merlin is on hold until I
do.
It seems I have come to the end of all the 3000 cards in my Cleverdeck French
flashcards app. At least, it has stopped giving me new cards and all the stats reset
when I got new phone so I can't see how many it is. Pity really since I do love it
and have something like a 130 day streak on it. Some of the latter ones I'm not
fully across so I'll continue to review with it.
Restarting Glossika French GSR from Day 1, I haven't done any for a couple of weeks.
I listened to the first day this morning, on the train so I could only discretely
whisper, but it felt like I really knew them all solidly and could say them pretty
quickly/decent pronunciation. So I think the method does work for me.
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redflag Senior Member Australia Joined 3844 days ago 123 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French
| Message 66 of 86 04 February 2015 at 4:27am | IP Logged |
Il est arrivé
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Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5168 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 67 of 86 04 February 2015 at 8:22pm | IP Logged |
I'm curious about your experience with reversed Duolingo, redflag. Indonesian seems to be an appropriate language to learn through Duolingo, and it may arrive someday. Meanwhile, I'm not sure if trying the reverse course wouldn't confuse me more than help, and that's why I'd like to know from you. I believe the explanations and the listening are mostly thwarted, but it would still work with translations.
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redflag Senior Member Australia Joined 3844 days ago 123 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French
| Message 68 of 86 05 February 2015 at 10:54am | IP Logged |
My first thought about the 'reverse tree' is that it is HARD. I'm going to keep going for a week or two at least to
judge if the difficulty is worth it. You might be right it's more confusing than helpful. One thing, I am doing it
without the listening and speaking exercises, just the reading and "writing". I will report back after I've ploughed
through it for a while.
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Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4911 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German
| Message 69 of 86 10 February 2015 at 8:49am | IP Logged |
Your copy of FWT looks like a nice classic edition. My copy was from an 80s printing, so it has a photo for the cover. Actually I'm kind of in love with 80s Paris, since it was the 80s I first visited, and since French in Action was filmed in 80s Paris. So I guess my edition suits me well!
I've thought about doing a reverse Duolingo tree in Hindi, but I'm not sure....
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redflag Senior Member Australia Joined 3844 days ago 123 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French
| Message 70 of 86 10 February 2015 at 10:54am | IP Logged |
1946, I believe, Jeffers. I probably don't want to talk like someone from 1946 but it will be interesting to see any
cultural aspects of it.
While I'm here I suppose I should update: I've been trying to concentrate a bit on reading and have added about half
a dozen random newspaper/magazine articles I've come across to it and made about 300 flashcards mostly of
phrases, but some individual words.
Tonight I watched "C'est dur d'être aimé par des cons", a 2008 documentary about Charlie Hebdo (very interesting)
on the myfrenchfilmfestival website where there are a bunch of things free to watch for another week or so. I won't
watch another tonight but I'm intrigued some of them list under subtitles "French" and "French (Complete)" - could
that mean they are the holy grail of subtitles, word-for-word ones? I will investigate tomorrow.
http://www.myfrenchfilmfestival.com/en/
I'll say it again, the reverse tree is hard but worthwhile I think.
Oh, totally randomly I started Danish on Duolingo - I am doing an experiment whereby I do it only on Duolingo and
only reading no listening/speaking (and no outside resources other than maybe looking up some grammar) and
then see how much I can read at the end.
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redflag Senior Member Australia Joined 3844 days ago 123 posts - 182 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Indonesian, French
| Message 71 of 86 11 February 2015 at 1:09am | IP Logged |
My Assimil L'Indonesien arrived today so can begin my no-doubt doomed experiment in
learning French and Indonesian from the same book
Edited by redflag on 11 February 2015 at 2:03am
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PeterMollenburg Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5478 days ago 821 posts - 1273 votes Speaks: English* Studies: FrenchB1
| Message 72 of 86 11 February 2015 at 1:57am | IP Logged |
redflag wrote:
My Assimil L'Indonesien arrived today so can begin my no-doubt doomed
experiment in
learning French and Indonesian at the same time
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Je crois que ça a l'air prometteur :) Bonne chance avec ça redflag!
I think it looks promising myself :) Good luck with it redflag!
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