BGreco Senior Member Joined 6316 days ago 211 posts - 222 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) 3 sounds Speaks: English* Studies: French, Spanish
| Message 145 of 154 07 April 2008 at 6:06pm | IP Logged |
I got a few questions. Does anyone have any shortcuts to making parallel texts? I'm going to make one for Angels and Demons before summer for a big project (I'm sure I'll have a log up. I'm going to try to learn Spanish in a month as a little linguistic experiment), and it's a whole novel, so it'll take a while.
Also, you said if Atamagaii agrees. I know s/he's banned, but you make it seem as if you still have a way of contacting him/her?
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6362 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 146 of 154 08 April 2008 at 2:32pm | IP Logged |
BGreco wrote:
I got a few questions. Does anyone have any shortcuts to making parallel texts? I'm going to make one for Angels and Demons before summer for a big project (I'm sure I'll have a log up. I'm going to try to learn Spanish in a month as a little linguistic experiment), and it's a whole novel, so it'll take a while.
Also, you said if Atamagaii agrees. I know s/he's banned, but you make it seem as if you still have a way of contacting him/her?
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Yes, I have his/her email address, and provide it in PM to anyone who asks.
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6362 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 148 of 154 24 May 2008 at 5:30am | IP Logged |
Lingual Scholar wrote:
Volte,
I have some questions if you don't mind.
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I don't mind at all.
Lingual Scholar wrote:
1. What does step 5 comprise?
2. How does the author define 'echoing'? Speaking aloud at the same time as the recording?
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See the thread on the active stages of L-R, which is a question-and-answer dialog between atamagaii and an anonymous student (not me). It defines recitation. It uses the term 'shadowing', if you're searching within it, not echoing.
Lingual Scholar wrote:
3. Why is the echoing first done without looking at the written text of the target language?
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Because echoing and reading aren't the same thing, as atamagaii says.
My personal experience is that I don't sound the same if I'm echoing what I hear as closely as I can, as opposed to reading and trying to match a recorded native speaker.
Good luck!
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6362 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 150 of 154 25 May 2008 at 6:31am | IP Logged |
Lingual Scholar wrote:
I realize that they aren't the same thing. My question is why is the echoing (without the text in front of you)
done *first* (i.e. before reading aloud with the audio with the text in front of you)?
Thanks for the information, by the way.
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I can only speculate, and I'd prefer not to propagate potentially incorrect information. PM me and I'll send you atamagaii's email address so you can ask directly.
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Volte Tetraglot Senior Member Switzerland Joined 6362 days ago 4474 posts - 6726 votes ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) ![](/images/pokal.2.jpg) Speaks: English*, Esperanto, German, Italian Studies: French, Finnish, Mandarin, Japanese
| Message 151 of 154 25 May 2008 at 10:59am | IP Logged |
Lingual Scholar wrote:
I realize that they aren't the same thing. My question is why is the echoing (without the text in front of you)
done *first* (i.e. before reading aloud with the audio with the text in front of you)?
Thanks for the information, by the way.
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An_atamagaii_by_any_other_name wrote:
the reason is simple: when you're looking at the written text you tend to pronounce in your native way, so first you have to learn how to pronounce properly |
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