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| Halfdan Newbie Canada Joined 4187 days ago 13 posts - 21 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Danish, Mandarin, French | Message 9 of 69 22 September 2013 at 4:19am | IP Logged | |||||
There's Le Suédois (French) and Schwedisch ohne Mühe (German) from Assimil. Nothing in English yet, though. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| prz_ Tetraglot Senior Member Poland last.fm/user/prz_rul Joined 4862 days ago 890 posts - 1190 votes  Speaks: Polish*, English, Bulgarian, Croatian Studies: Slovenian, Macedonian, Persian, Russian, Turkish, Ukrainian, Dutch, Swedish, German, Italian, Armenian, Kurdish | Message 10 of 69 22 September 2013 at 11:47am | IP Logged | |||||
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Jamopy, you have to delete the space between the two pars of the link :]
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| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4831 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 11 of 69 22 September 2013 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | |||||
try this and for completeness, the other one: HTLAL wiki on shadowing 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| montmorency Diglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4831 days ago 2371 posts - 3676 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Danish, Welsh | Message 12 of 69 22 September 2013 at 3:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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There are clearly some shadowing skeptics here, while others seem to be fans.
Professor Arguelles himself seems to have got a lot out of it, although it may possibly not be what people are expecting to get out of it themselves. Edit: I posted this link in that other thread, but I think it's worth repeating for anyone who has not seen it: using Audacity to mimic That's in the context of Chinese, but obviously applicable to any language. NB, that's not about shadowing, but a possibly more useful alternative, if it's pronunciation improvement you are after. Edited by montmorency on 22 September 2013 at 4:08pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| TehGarnt Diglot Newbie Germany Joined 4855 days ago 33 posts - 63 votes Speaks: English*, German Studies: Spanish | Message 13 of 69 22 September 2013 at 8:05pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I'm sure it helps a lot if you have a transcription of the audio being shadowed and know
what it means, so you can make connections between the sound, writing and meanings. Many courses have recorded audio with accompanying transcriptions, even if not with the handy parallel translation of Assimil. Linguaphone is one, my method is to start with blind shadowing, then moving on to going through the list of new vocabulary for each lesson and making a list of the words I don't understand, then reviewing this list before shadowing while reading the transcription. I refer to the translations in the handbook for anything I still don't understand. Works well for me. Edited by TehGarnt on 22 September 2013 at 8:06pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4710 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 14 of 69 22 September 2013 at 8:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't shadow, I just repeat aloud a lot and then get input from a native later.
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| lingoleng Senior Member Germany Joined 5301 days ago 605 posts - 1290 votes | Message 15 of 69 23 September 2013 at 3:57am | IP Logged | |||||
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Shadowing is probably like L-R: It works great for the ones who can do it. That's why so many people don't like it. Edited by lingoleng on 23 September 2013 at 3:59am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5384 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 16 of 69 23 September 2013 at 4:50am | IP Logged | |||||
He himself wrote on his site: "My Chinese pronunciation is confessedly atrocious, but it is infinitely better when I am shadowing than when I am not". In other words, he says his pronunciation is atrocious when he's not shadowing. Doesn't sound to me like shadowing is a great way to improve your pronunciation. Does it to you? 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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