Niomi Diglot Newbie Japan ioet.com Joined 7040 days ago 20 posts - 23 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Russian
| Message 25 of 43 04 July 2011 at 1:10am | IP Logged |
I've been going through a period this year where I've been intensely missing Tokyo, and ended up dreaming in Japanese - even though I've hardly been using it at all in everyday life. I've been reading books and watching the occasional TV show but that's about it. It definitely serves to make me want to use Japanese more though, and makes me more wistful than ever. Kind of sad, really, since I'm trying to focus on Russian now!
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Niomi Diglot Newbie Japan ioet.com Joined 7040 days ago 20 posts - 23 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Russian
| Message 26 of 43 04 July 2011 at 1:13am | IP Logged |
Tecktight wrote:
After practicing Russian grammar in my workbook for extended periods of time, I have very bland, annoying
dreams that involve cyrillic letters.
Basically the whole dream exists in an expanse of white. Then, one by one, cyrillic letters pop up and then slowly
fade away. Sometimes they'll be floating on sheets of paper. And that's about all that happens for the whole night.
I've also had dreams in which I've spoken Russian but I don't really remember them. In any case, the above dream
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That's interesting since I've read that it's impossible to dream in the written word! It has something to do with the part of our brain that we use for reading. Apparently the most we can do is see a word here and there.
Edited by Niomi on 04 July 2011 at 1:13am
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Dreadslinger Newbie United States Joined 4891 days ago 18 posts - 30 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Russian
| Message 27 of 43 04 July 2011 at 1:18am | IP Logged |
irishpolyglot wrote:
The one catch is that you will *think* you are dreaming in the language, but since it's all in your head you could be making up words and thinking that they are right.. |
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lol I'm an absolute beginner in Russian (literally just starting out) and I have dreams in which I have fully realized, fluent conversations with... well, to be honest, mostly very attractive (albeit entirely invented) Russian women. It's nice, but rather disappointing that I can't be as fluent outside of "dreamland". Of course, I tend to wish I could be as charming in waking life as well... lol
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Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4974 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian
| Message 28 of 43 04 July 2011 at 3:28am | IP Logged |
Niomi wrote:
That's interesting since I've read that it's impossible to dream in the written word! It has something to do with the
part of our brain that we use for reading. Apparently the most we can do is see a word here and there. |
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Really? I guess that would make sense, since things in dreams don't really tend to stay still enough for one to be
able to read them...
Perhaps, because I'm a visual person, I interpret letters, text, etc. as images and they transfer over to my dreams
more easily?
Do you recall where you read that/have you any links on the subject you could share? xD
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Niomi Diglot Newbie Japan ioet.com Joined 7040 days ago 20 posts - 23 votes Speaks: English*, Japanese Studies: Russian
| Message 29 of 43 04 July 2011 at 10:29pm | IP Logged |
Tecktight wrote:
Really? I guess that would make sense, since things in dreams don't really tend to stay still enough for one to be
able to read them...
Perhaps, because I'm a visual person, I interpret letters, text, etc. as images and they transfer over to my dreams
more easily?
Do you recall where you read that/have you any links on the subject you could share? xD |
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I just did a quick search and came up with:
http://dreaminglife.org/how-well-can-you-read-in-your-dreams / -- this person write a blog post about it
http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread468063/pg1 -- thread about it
Sorry I couldn't come up with anything more scientific than that... Maybe you're right -- what some of those people say is that the part of the brain that reads is asleep when we're dreaming, so you'd be seeing those words as images more than actual words.
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BartoG Diglot Senior Member United States confession Joined 5445 days ago 292 posts - 818 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Uzbek
| Message 30 of 43 05 July 2011 at 2:49am | IP Logged |
If you're into lucid dreaming, one of the important things to know is whether you're dreaming or really awake. A standard way of doing this is to look at your watch, then look back again in a minute or so. If you're dreaming, it will likely be a very different time. This doesn't speak to the reading question specifically, but does indicate that when you look for specific information while dreaming, the brain just pops in images, without a real effort to stick to script. I imagine it's the same with signs for the subway and the like - you're not actually reading, you're just seeing familiar signs.
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Tecktight Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member United States Joined 4974 days ago 227 posts - 327 votes Speaks: English*, Serbian Studies: German, Russian, Estonian
| Message 31 of 43 05 July 2011 at 8:18pm | IP Logged |
Thanks for the links, Niomi.
And, BartoG, I have looked into lucid dreaming before, and I find it a fascinating concept. I guess one can try to
fashion one's dream into a language experience of some kind.
It also makes sense now why one wouldn't be able to read in dreams--nothing stays still long enough.
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Zireael Triglot Senior Member Poland Joined 4649 days ago 518 posts - 636 votes Speaks: Polish*, EnglishB2, Spanish Studies: German, Sign Language, Tok Pisin, Arabic (Yemeni), Old English
| Message 32 of 43 04 March 2012 at 10:38am | IP Logged |
I have often heard that you start dreaming in foreign languages when you're fluent, but linguaphiles on the LJ have proved this belief false - when I find the link to the question I posted there, I'll put it here.
I have been dreaming in English, in German (even though my German is quite poor), in Spanish (practically from the moment I started learning it) and even in a conlang.
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