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| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5653 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes  Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 33 of 98 08 February 2014 at 9:14am | IP Logged | |||||
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谢谢！ 你解释得很清楚！
那我可以随便选？ 我看过“一堂课”但没看过“一节课”。 可能是在书里看过的。 “堂”这个字也用在 “食堂” “天堂” 和 “课堂”， 天堂可能有点不一样， 但是还可以算是一个很大的hall :P 你学过古代汉语吗？ 怎么知道得那么多？ 真羡慕你！ 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PointsDotsLines Diglot Groupie United States Joined 3794 days ago 76 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 34 of 98 08 February 2014 at 8:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
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对，两者你都可以随便使用。
中文是我的母语呀:) 不过我不一定能够解释复杂的问题。 你目前的中文程度，能使用中文字典吗？ 常见的字典是《新华字典》，网址是：在线新华字典 它可以帮助你解决许多疑难问题。 以前在小学、中学上语文课的时候，我们需要 做许多分析句型的练习。 比如：分析句子的主语、谓语、宾语、定语、 状语、补语。 有一点儿类似FSI中的 pattern/substitution drills，是非常枯燥乏味的练习！ 中学的语文课也包括简单的古代汉语(我们叫 "文言文")，不过上完课后，就都忘记了；-） 我也读到你给别人提供的许多学习建议，让人 受益匪浅 (=得到好处、得到益处; helpful, useful). Edited by PointsDotsLines on 08 February 2014 at 8:34pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5653 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 35 of 98 09 February 2014 at 6:26am | IP Logged | |||||
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我也看过中国中小学的教法，真哀怜中国小朋 友！ 他们太努力啦。负担，竞争那么大，就会让人 疯了。 好像中国老师也非常喜欢让学生背东西。 幸亏我不用再上学， 可以自学！
我会试一试使用中文字典， 但是恐怕我的中文水平还不够高。 对我来说， 中文最难的部分之一就是词汇问题。 怎么知道在什么语境下要用什么词？ 让我头疼！ 我很想开始看中文书， 但一看到那么多不认识的字我头一下子晕了。 如果学西班牙语有什么困难， 尽管问！ 我的西班牙语说得比我的汉语好多了 :P Euskara: I finished Assimil! I had some computer issues and lost some Anki stuff, but now i've added everything back in. Today i did lesson 11 of Beginner's Basque and reviewed lessons 1-6 of Assimil. There's still so much more to learn, but some things are starting to make sense. I don't know what it's really called, but where in English you would use an infinitive with a verb, when the subject of verb 2 is different from the main verb, you'll often nominalize the verb in Basque. For example, in English: I want to go. Nik joan nahi dut. The main verb is nahi, and joan also refers to me. However, in: I want you to go. Nik zuk joatea nahi dut. Here, the person going is YOU and the person wanting is ME. Joatea is the nominalized form of joan (to go). What you're literally saying is something like "The you going I want." I guess "you going" is treated as a thing, it's the thing that you want. I'm still getting used to this concept, but i'm finally starting to understand it. Assimil used it a few times but never explained it, they just said "You'll get used to it." Another example of nominalization is in the phrase: It makes it possible to communicate. Komunikatzea posible egiten du. Here, komunikatzea is used in it's nominalized form. I guess it's somewhat similar to using the infinitive or gerund as a noun in English. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PointsDotsLines Diglot Groupie United States Joined 3794 days ago 76 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 36 of 98 09 February 2014 at 8:45pm | IP Logged | |||||
你写的中文, 我都明白:) 只是这句需要改进一下:
“哀怜”的英语解释是 “feel pity/sympaty for someone”. 中文的解释是对他人的不幸表示同情. 根据不 同的程度，表示同情的词汇分别有：哀怜、怜 惜、可怜、同情，等等。 "哀怜"多用于对他人遭遇天灾人祸、或者身患 重病的时候，表示同情。 至于学生面对沉重负担这样的”不幸”，使用 ”可怜、同情”。比如： 真可怜/同情中国的小朋友！他们太努力了，负担、竞争那么大，真会让人疯了！ 如果是我的话，我会这样描写： 真同情中国的小朋友！他们要面对沉重的学习 负担和激烈的竞争，太可怜了！
谢谢你的帮助! 现在你能明白我们学习外语时，需要面对”蝌 蚪文”的感觉了吧？ (蝌蚪文是colloquial expression, 带一点儿调侃的语气。) Edited by PointsDotsLines on 09 February 2014 at 8:48pm 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5653 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 37 of 98 10 February 2014 at 4:05am | IP Logged | |||||
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我也听说过“可怜”， 但是不知道也有“feel sorry for”的意思。 我总是听 “哎呀我好可怜啊！” 哈哈
就和我说的那个语境有关系， 我不知道一个词是怎么用的。 我应该多阅读点， 只是还很麻烦。 中文书能看懂那一天我真等不到， 只是恐怕那天永不会来！ 最后一句我没名白， “蝌蚪文的感觉”是什么意思？ 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PointsDotsLines Diglot Groupie United States Joined 3794 days ago 76 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 38 of 98 10 February 2014 at 6:12am | IP Logged | |||||
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“蝌蚪文”是我们对弯弯曲曲的罗马字母的戏 称。
如果打开一本外语书(如英语、法语等)，有许 多不认识的词汇，犹如是一群群四处漫游的 蝌蚪(tadpoles)，是什么样的感觉呢？就是你上 面说 的”头一下子晕了”，哈哈:) Edited by PointsDotsLines on 10 February 2014 at 6:13am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Crush Tetraglot Senior Member ChinaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5653 days ago 1622 posts - 2299 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish, Mandarin, Esperanto Studies: Basque | Message 39 of 98 11 February 2014 at 1:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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哦现在我明白了！ 很好玩，哈哈。 谢谢！
在getchicory.com我开始听看“阿Q正传”。 只看了第一章（序），很难啊！ 但挺有意思的， 我希望另外几会章简单点。 Euskara: I finished Assimil and Beginner's Basque! Today i reviewed the third week of Assimil (lessons 15-20) and started the Colloquial Basque course. I'd like to find "The Basque Language: A Practical Introduction", i may end up having to shop online for it. It seems like it's really highly regarded. I also picked up the Hiru course and will try to follow that as best i can. I've been told that the B1 and up levels are much more interesting, so maybe i just need to stick it out. Despite being a bit boring and the website a bit slow, it seems like it covers quite a bit. And it's free, so... 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| PointsDotsLines Diglot Groupie United States Joined 3794 days ago 76 posts - 110 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, English Studies: Spanish | Message 40 of 98 11 February 2014 at 3:22am | IP Logged | |||||
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你读《阿Q正传》啊？对于中国的学生来说， 鲁迅的作品也是很难懂的！
(你知道作者鲁迅是谁，对吧？) 他的数篇作品是中学语文课必读的，可是他的 写作风格是比较难懂。 我们读书的时候，(至少我是这样认为的)都认 为他的作品是枯燥乏味，会让人昏昏欲睡的;-) 所以读完后，都忘记了。 Edited by PointsDotsLines on 11 February 2014 at 3:24am 1 person has voted this message useful |
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