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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6394 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes  4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 209 of 211 29 August 2014 at 5:39pm | IP Logged | ||
Most of the forum has already agreed on deeming the percentage system acceptable. I'm under the impression that at least Cavesa and emk interpret them pretty much the same way as I do. (most others haven't written about it in detail) When in doubt, I read other posts by the same person and ask. Letting the OP clarify is essential anyway, and that's far better than imposing your own requirements. Can you even name any specific threads that could've generated better advice if people didn't use numbers? Also, it's not an academic forum. Rosetta Stone claims to have done plenty of research but it won't be taken seriously here unless someone reliable demonstrates what they've learned through it (and how fast). Research is just a nice bonus backing empirical knowledge. Here on HTLAL, it seems much more important to be honest about your progress and "remember that not everyone has had the same advantages as you", ie acknowledging the factors that can lead to different results for others. BTW, one more area where we can only estimate is ranking our SRS answers. There's no universal system for deciding how well you remember a given card, but it seems like very few would prefer to have a binary yes/no system instead, or even three-way grading instead of a larger scale. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||
| s_allard Triglot Senior Member Canada Joined 5227 days ago 2704 posts - 5425 votes Speaks: French*, English, Spanish Studies: Polish | Message 210 of 211 30 August 2014 at 1:49pm | IP Logged | ||
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I don't see any evidence that most of the forum has already agreed that using percentages for measuring
comprehension is acceptable. This is a typical example of a blanket statement that has no demonstrable foundation in facts. Has anybody done any counting? Is there a poll somewhere that I haven't seen? What we do know is that some people use percentages and other people don't. That's it. People do whatever they want. I certainly do not tell people what to do. On the other hand, I question the value and significance of certain ideas or positions. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6394 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 211 of 211 31 August 2014 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | ||
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This thread is enough evidence for me. You seem to be the only one arguing for using vague words instead of percentages. And outside this thread people are still using percentages. They're measuring comprehension while we're discussing whether it's measurable. And yes, I think most agree that scientifically calculating the percentages is both impossible and pointless. (see Cavesa's post)
Not everything in life is explicit. People are surprisingly good at interpreting subtleties. Now I'm not comparing you to these folks, but just showing that subtleties are often the default way of dealing with something in the real world. Maybe also because it's always possible to pretend one didn't understand. Feel free to start a poll though :) 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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