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| dandt Senior Member Australia regarderetlire.wordp Joined 4436 days ago 134 posts - 174 votes  Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, French | Message 57 of 88 05 February 2015 at 12:33pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Their target language isn't the one they're doing the immersion for, so should it really matter?
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| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6409 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 58 of 88 05 February 2015 at 2:34pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Aw I missed this. Then it really doesn't matter.
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| PeterMollenburg Senior Member AustraliaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5288 days ago 821 posts - 1273 votes Speaks: English* Studies: FrenchB1 | Message 59 of 88 05 February 2015 at 10:13pm | IP Logged | |||||
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To be fair, I was the one that raised this. I thought it was worthwhile bringing up as it seemed unrealistic (TV
etc was clarified why couldnt this be). Immersion was the reason given. Immersion to me is rather 'different' & I too was not sure whether it counted as 'full hours'. I guess it does, seems to be the response, or even who cares. That's fine, just thought it worthwhile raising. I didnt expect such blazé responses given the usually strong response on various other issues requiring clarification in the SC or the 6WC, I guess I was looking for more clarity on rules not necessarily wanting the police involved just yet. I hope you do realise tho since I looked at someone the other day in a non-French way, I've been under 24hr (obvious) police surveillance ensuring I dont act Australian and try to count it as hours for my French. Can I count this typing? I swear I was thinking about French here and there. On a positive note this person is a great example of how valuable immersion can be judging by the sheer volume of exposure to the language. Have to stop now, police looking very serious, oh quel beau jour d'été ici, n'est-ce pas monsieur le meilleur agent de police du monde que j'aie jamais vu... hein? 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| s.mann Groupie United States lang-8.com/973514/jo Joined 3450 days ago 55 posts - 76 votes Speaks: English* Studies: French | Message 60 of 88 06 February 2015 at 7:32pm | IP Logged | |||||
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PM - I'm kinda at the "who cares" point too, since I'm putting really the absolute max time I can put
into French studying into it and still seem to be fairly far down the list. Besides, I don't think I can keep this level up for the whole 6 weeks. In principle I'd have to argue that if you count an hour as one language it shouldn't get to count as another as well and just because I'm eating lunch in a foreign country doesn't mean I'm learning anything. I also don't spend every waking moment speaking, actively listening to, or reading English, and doubt anyone in an immersion environment has to either. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Straya Diglot Groupie Australia Joined 3429 days ago 57 posts - 73 votes Speaks: English*, FrenchA2 Studies: Polish | Message 61 of 88 08 February 2015 at 11:11am | IP Logged | |||||
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I dont want to be rude to @csidler, but mate if you can sit and listen to 220 minutes of
german with 100% of focus, and doing no other activity, ill eat my own hat, seriously. while this is completely personally regulated, i feel some are rather liberal with their marking of hours PS It was I, who logged 5000 minutes of french, as an experiment because i want sure if you could put in whatever you want. Personally i think most people arent honest with their markings but hey thats on them, not like you win a prize anyway :) Im glad people are pay attention though Edited by Straya on 08 February 2015 at 11:17am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Via Diva Diglot Senior Member Russian Federation last.fm/user/viadivaRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4046 days ago 1109 posts - 1427 votes Speaks: Russian*, English Studies: German, Italian, French, Swedish, Esperanto, Czech, Greek | Message 62 of 88 08 February 2015 at 11:48am | IP Logged | |||||
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I don't want to be rude either, but you don't have to log things as they done. For example, I have yet to log a load of data from last.fm (even with dividing it's a lot).
And once during 6WC Aug'14 I logged 7 hours of listening-reading Harry Potter with no delays, I literally paused if I couldn't pay enough attention. It's all about honesty, that's it. 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6409 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish | Message 63 of 88 08 February 2015 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Yeah, when my updates are longer than two hours they're generally summaries after several days. Edited by Serpent on 09 February 2015 at 8:57pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Jeffers Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4721 days ago 2151 posts - 3960 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Hindi, Ancient Greek, French, Sanskrit, German | Message 64 of 88 11 February 2015 at 12:53am | IP Logged | |||||
There's a keyword that we shouldn't ignore: "studying". The description of how to participate states, "When you have studied something", not "when you have done something". I am among those who count films and TV, but we need to know that even watching stretches the definition of "studying" enough that Sprachprofi questioned it. Loads of us stuck up for films, and so she accepted them. If I remember correctly, the caveat was that you should count a percentage of things you're not fully focused on. I haven't seen anyone tweeting "immersion", but that would clearly stretch the definition of "studying" beyond recognition. Ultimately, "who cares?" is a good attitude to what you can't change. However, the 6wc is fun because it is competitive. Competition stops being fun when some participants don't play by the rules. EDIT: here's another quote from the instruction page which is worth keeping in mind:
Edited by Jeffers on 11 February 2015 at 12:57am 2 persons have voted this message useful |
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