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| FireViN Diglot Senior Member Brazil missaoitaliano.wordpRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5227 days ago 196 posts - 292 votes  Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2 Studies: Italian | Message 169 of 344 24 December 2012 at 4:42pm | IP Logged |
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O francês sem esforço
Passive wave: Leçon 15 I just finished lesson 15. It was a VERY long and busy week that kept me from studying everyday. My throat was sore and I was basically unable to pronounce French, haha. Anyway, the lessons are getting a lot harder and even though when I finish a lesson I understand 100% of the audio, when I start I get about 30%, a few words here and there. It surprises me since I thought French was way closer to Portuguese, but now I'm having a hard time understanding it when I start. Well, at least I understand when I finish, and I spend only about 20 minutes a lesson. The audio I have might be from an older version, I'm not sure. It matches with my book, but some of the prices are very different. At lesson 15, they order two beers for 1,50 francs in the book, but in the audio it's 80 francs. Not a big deal, anyway. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Marishka Newbie United States Joined 5246 days ago 25 posts - 56 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Spanish, French, Dutch | Message 170 of 344 27 December 2012 at 2:36am | IP Logged |
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Dutch With Ease Update
Passive Wave: Lessons 50-56 Active Wave: Lessons 1-7 I've completed the first seven lessons of the active wave. I was able to translate the dialogues from English to Dutch blindfolded with both hands tied behind my back! I'm going to savor that small victory, as I doubt I'll be able to make that claim when I get to the more difficult active wave lessons. I'm not nearly as happy with the passive wave, not because it's too difficult, but because it has become irritating. Two bickering women, first encountered in a few earlier lessons, returned in nine of the past thirteen lessons. Perhaps "Dora" and "Mia" are meant to be amusing characters, but their inane squabbling is annoying to me. The dialogues featuring Dora and Mia remind me of tacky tv commercials. Sometimes the most annoying commercials are the most memorable, so maybe that is what Assimil is aiming for with those dialogues. If so, it may not work on me, as I always hit the mute button during commercials. In any case, I worked my way through those lessons as quickly as possible! 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5164 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian | Message 171 of 344 27 December 2012 at 2:58pm | IP Logged |
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Il nuovo russo senza sforzo
Currently at lesson 51. Like I said, lessons are getting longer. Notes are about twice as big as the actual Russian text. In my opinion, this represents the failure of the Assimil model. If they have so much to explain in notes, that means one can't learn just from assimilating. As for myself, I'm used to language learning and therefore I think that at least half the notes are useless and the remaining ones could be half as short. I always do exercises source-target language, and therefore I don't do an active wave. My active wave and review will actually consist of picking another Assimil book right after this one, which will most likely be Russian Without Toil (1951 edition). 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| Flarioca Heptaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5880 days ago 635 posts - 816 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Esperanto, French, EnglishC2, Spanish, German, Italian Studies: Catalan, Mandarin | Message 172 of 344 27 December 2012 at 10:44pm | IP Logged |
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El Catalán sin esfuerzo - Lessons 36 to 42
Sixth review lesson. I don't have much to say about this group of lessons. It seems that I won't have much problems with prepositions. Pronouns, however, are still a problem, though it must be said that my grammar book has helped to overcome some difficulties. The lessons are going to get longer (and more complex, I guess) very soon. Let's hope that my comprehension remains on the same level. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 173 of 344 27 December 2012 at 11:35pm | IP Logged |
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Le Breton sans peine (until lesson 56)
I have started the second wave of the course. Most of the translations I can do without effort, but there are sometimes a few things with the various forms of to be that I recognise but cannot fluently produce in writing; and word order can be a bit tricky (I sometimes switch components at the ends). I also forgot some very common words such as "stal" (shop) which didn't get reused later on for some reason (strange because that is something you would happen to use quite often...). I also need to distinguish between hag an eil hag egile/eben and nag an eil nag egile/eben (both... and... or neither... nor...) In terms of grammar, we have now started the past tense of "to be". We have also completed quite a few mutations and added some more conjugated prepositions to our arsenal. This week was not much in terms of new grammar. But the lessons are getting harder, I am making more mistakes and I need to stop leaving Breton to the nights. But what can you do with a thesis on your back. Not much, I'm afraid. I will leave you with a Breton phrase of the week: Pegen aonik out! (Combien tu es peureux!), or, You're a wuss. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| melkior79 Newbie Japan Joined 4629 days ago 16 posts - 31 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Japanese, Latin, French | Message 174 of 344 28 December 2012 at 12:16am | IP Logged |
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New French with Ease 36
I am now blessed with a winter vacation which lasts until April. I am fortunate to have this extra time. I am however, still committed to the 30-40 minute per day schedule, as I have other language learning projects on the go. Outside of the study time, I have been listening to dialogs on my i-pod on occasion ie at the bus-stop walking to the shops. I am listening to older lessons over and over, but other than that I am sticking to the restricted study time. I laughed my ass off at the 'mon colonel' in lesson 35. However, I doubt I will be able to tell someone that they are mistaken in French without looking at the book again. I feel that I am not retaining alot of the information given in the notes to each lesson. My instincts are screaming for more grammar drills. I feel that I am advancing to the next lesson before I have mastered the material that came before it. I know I am not supposed to think about these things with Assimil. I believe that I am improving however, I am still unable to produce language independently of the book. There are so many nouns that are passing me by not memorised This book is awesome though. So comprehensive. The recordings are excellent. I enjoy learning this way. In short I am having fun and that has to be the most important thing. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |
| fireballtrouble Triglot Senior Member Turkey Joined 4522 days ago 129 posts - 203 votes Speaks: Turkish*, French, English Studies: German | Message 175 of 344 29 December 2012 at 1:14pm | IP Logged |
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L'Allemand - lesson 51
Well, the active wave has begun. After 40th lesson, I began to feel that daily load was about to increase. In general terms, I still find the coursebook really useful. What I feel strange about the course is the strict rule of "a little but every single day". 30 minutes aren't enough (at least for me) to say "yeah, today I learnt well" Language acquisition is of course based on countless repetition and cumulative progression but first of all I don't think that language learning can be considered as getting prepared for GMAT, SAT etc.. I found that I couldn't really absorb the lessons on the days that I returned home so tired. So from now on, I'll study 1-2 lessons on the days when I feel myself ready for studying new stuff and on the other days when I feel myself, I'll just repeat previous ones. I'm curious to see what other members think about their "experiences" rather than the similarities they found on the grammar, lesson notes etc.. 1 person has voted this message useful | |
| jeronz Diglot Newbie New Zealand Joined 4856 days ago 37 posts - 79 votes Speaks: English*, Spanish Studies: French, Yiddish, Latin, German, Italian | Message 176 of 344 30 December 2012 at 1:51am | IP Logged |
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El Nuevo Francés sin Esfuerzo
Passive Wave: Lessons 64-70 Active Wave: Lessons 15-21 It has now been 12 weeks since starting French. It has really been a relatively painless experience so far compared to Spanish. I feel like I am really improving. I have run into one problem: I am increasingly having to double check certain details in L1 (Spanish) with the English version of the course "New French with Ease." This is obviously due to the French becoming more advanced and me being increasingly less confident in understanding the Spanish grammatical explanations and occasionally some vocabulary. My impression so far on using Assimil as an exclusive or close to exclusive initial method is fairly positive. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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