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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 673 of 1511 04 May 2013 at 10:02am | IP Logged | |||||
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It's Update Time
Ok, there is not that much to update. But still... I've been speaking Russian a lot over the past few days with my friends and considering I speak it practically every day (and not just about simple topics either... I now have the experience of being drunken IMed) and I've completed another class on iTalki as well. I at least am sounding somewhat more Russian these days and I'm happy to see that people have no inhibitions of messaging me at 3 AM their time, expecting me to fully understand their babble. I guess once you're at that point then you probably ought to be considered a speaker, hahaha.... I've also chatted some Swedish with jeff_lindqvist. That seemed to go fairly well but I'll leave any judgement of my Swedish up to him, haha. I've completed two lessons of Romanian plus the review lesson, adding all up to having completed the first six weeks of Le Roumain sans peine. Today (actually, after this update is done) I will commence lesson 43. I haven't studied Romanian since Wednesday apart from some Anki so I probably ought to get back to it today. I've not gotten much farther in the Routledge course (we're at 50 now) but I have completed 14 (!) lessons of L'Hébreu in the past 5 days or so. The only reason that is even possible is because all of this is already known to me, the level is pretty low. They've introduced some verbs in the present tense, adjective conjugation, and the smichut construction. Fortunately verbs in present tense were already known to me, and all I learned were a couple new words I didn't yet know. But most of this has been a joke so far. The problem really is that they spend a lot of this time making it so easy on people because they also have to explain the Hebrew abjad and the niqqud, but the problem is I studied that a long time ago and can read the dialogues no problem. My problem with Hebrew is not the letters, but knowing what the unknown words mean (and how to pronounce them if there's no niqqud, because knowing niqqud tends to be essential for new words if you don't know what they are, although I guess you can imply more from context if you have more context, but I don't). In terms of fun I prefer the Assimil to the Routledge course, and their introduction to the alphabet is WAY better, but the latter is way more thorough. I'm glad I have both. And the last comment I'll make here is that I am enjoying using French as a base language very much and that it's improved that language tremendously. I feel so much more comfortable in French now. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
 jeff_lindqvist Diglot Moderator SwedenRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 6907 days ago 4250 posts - 5711 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: German, Spanish, Russian, Dutch, Mandarin, Esperanto, Irish, French Personal Language Map | Message 674 of 1511 04 May 2013 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
No worries, you did great. I've seen a lot worse from people who've had a lot more exposure to the language (even lived in the country for decades). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 675 of 1511 04 May 2013 at 9:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
Det är trevligt att höra! About my other languages; after work I have dealt with two more lessons of the Routledge Course, which were some useless things about trains (OK, not that useless then) and verb forms being used as nouns, as well as how to ask how much something costs in Hebrew. I also spent some time completing the first lesson of Colloquial Icelandic which was silly easy. The only thing left now for me to do is to enter all the new vocabulary into Anki, which I will do gradually because I am not going to enter 200 words all at once into Anki (and I also plan to do ~1 unit a week if all goes well. Less if all goes downhill). 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 676 of 1511 05 May 2013 at 10:41pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hebrew: The First Milestone
Today was mostly busy spent watching Ajax becoming champions (this is important, people!) and celebrating other things, but I can celebrate one other thing today: I had my first experience speaking Hebrew myself to someone. And even though there was a lot of searching for words, some messed up verb conjugations and a total lack of future tense, I did get by in Hebrew. Mission 1 accomplished: get my Hebrew to an understandable level where with a bit of gesturing and some goodwill I can instantly say what it is that is on my mind. There is a base, Israelis would understand this. I know this because I booked a trial lesson on iTalki and could moderately keep the conversation going for 30 minutes. I had to ask "ani lo mevin" a fair bit but I managed. In other words, my Hebrew is now worth more than zero. It's still not very *good*, but it's better now. And unlike Steven Wilson, I didn't give up after the present tense!!!! (What this actually means: Tarvos, your Hebrew is terrible. What you need to do is speak a shitload of Hebrew and then you will maybe approach fluency in 10 years. Yours sincerely, elitist!) Is what I did today fluency. No. Not even close. Is it a useful level of Hebrew to have? Yes, as it's above tourist level. It's maybe an A2, but it's not useless at all, and with some concerted work, I can get to conversational level in Hebrew once I finish both textbooks. And that's not utopia at all folks. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5256 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 677 of 1511 05 May 2013 at 10:59pm | IP Logged | |||||
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כל הכבוד!
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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 678 of 1511 07 May 2013 at 2:00pm | IP Logged | |||||
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תודה רבה!
לא למדתי הרבה בשבוע שעבר, אבל עם עברית הכל בסדר. קראתי וגמרתי הרבה שיעורים בספרים שלי. לא קשה לדבר ולכתוב עברית. מי רוצה לדבר עברית איתי? מישהו? Edited by tarvos on 07 May 2013 at 4:25pm 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| zecchino1991 Senior Member United States facebook.com/amyybur Joined 5256 days ago 778 posts - 885 votes Speaks: English* Studies: Italian, Modern Hebrew, Russian, Arabic (Written), Romanian, Icelandic, Georgian | Message 679 of 1511 07 May 2013 at 4:09pm | IP Logged | |||||
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אני רוצה! :)
דרך אגב, קש=קשה הבל=הכל השבוע השעברה=בשבוע שעבר 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4705 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 680 of 1511 07 May 2013 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Hahaha, did I really type havol for hakol? Typo :(
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