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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4502 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 81 of 119 02 January 2014 at 9:21pm | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Only because of football actually, hahaha... you know that FIFA World Cup 2010 had this map where they showed info about the football history of a certain country... very useful because they didn't just point out Greece or Brazil but also Cape Verde and Angola and India and such 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| Cristianoo Triglot Senior Member Brazil https://projetopoligRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3916 days ago 175 posts - 289 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, FrenchB2, English Studies: Russian | Message 82 of 119 03 January 2014 at 12:54am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
If you want to really really piss off a brazillian, ask if we speak Spanish in Brazil. =) Once in Greece, a man selling souvenirs asked where I was from and started to speak in spanish with me. It was nothing to be bothered, he was trying to be nice and even trying to use his Spanish with someone... but It pissed me off... I had to pretend I wasn't angry in order to be polite. I don't know why we get so bothered, but we do. Well I do... if someone say that he knows we speak portuguese and asks me if he could speak Spanish with me, I would gladly accept that... but I find it rude when someone assumes that we speak Spanish and start to talk in Spanish right away. Am I being childish? Edited by Cristianoo on 03 January 2014 at 12:54am 3 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| gRodriguez Triglot Groupie BrazilRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 3823 days ago 44 posts - 56 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, EnglishC2, Galician Studies: Spanish, Japanese | Message 83 of 119 03 January 2014 at 1:06am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Kinda, but so am I. Now imagine having a Japanese getting his language confused with Chinese when those are as related as English and Arab (in others not from the same language family). 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| patrickwilken Senior Member Germany radiant-flux.net Joined 4328 days ago 1546 posts - 3200 votes Studies: German | Message 84 of 119 03 January 2014 at 1:17am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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I once had a pretty nasty altercation with a Neo-Nazi in Germany, after I had seen him abusing a Vietnamese guy in Asian store I used to go to. He had said something about immigrants not being welcome, so of course when I came in the fray, he got super angry with me and started threatening me with all sorts of things. Unfortunately, my German wasn't sufficiently good at the time to reply in kind.
This video Melbourne (my home town) shocked me when I saw it last year. Apparently this all started because some French girls were singing in French at the back of a bus: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hp6J6PF47CM 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| culebrilla Senior Member United States Joined 3792 days ago 246 posts - 436 votes Speaks: Spanish | Message 85 of 119 03 January 2014 at 1:40am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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That's crazy and also kind of unexpected to me. I didn't think that English speakers from Australia would look down on a French speaker, somebody from a fellow first world country. I would probably expect racism to occur between black/white or people from very different cultures but not from Western cultures.
Actually, take that back. I know that there are still a lot of Chinese still bitter about what happened in WW2 with Japan and how they are still pissed because a lot of Japanese textbooks gloss over the MANY atrocities committed by the Japanese imperial armed forces. Here in the US as an Asian I don't feel it as much, although personally I still am a little resentful of what happened in WW2. It's not the fault of the Japanese that were born after 1945 and that didn't have anything to do with it, of course. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4085 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 86 of 119 03 January 2014 at 1:52am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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In the UK I have heard some comments of rivalry, some more than rivalry that are
offensive, about France, usually due to historical reasons and battles, such as the Norman Conquest, the Napoleonic Wars, the Battle of the Plains of Abraham in Québec in 1763, King Henry VIII, and other silliness that apparently causes rivalry in teenagers, despite some events happening almost one millenium ago. Even more strange is that France are something like 40 km away from England and share quite a bit of culture between each other. I never understood it, and France for me is one of my favourite places to holiday. Also I notice that quite a few seem to speak below B1 Spanish to people in Portugsl because they do not know Portuguese, just because probably Spanish have more speakers, Spain are a bordering country, and Spain have more political influence. But I think that this would simply be especially insulting to a Portuguese person, especially given that Portugal and Spain have been competing countries throughout history. It is like saying, "I do not know your language, but I know a bit of an 80% related language of a political rival that you may or may not know how to speak, so I shall speak to you therewith even though my speech is broken and hopefully you can communicate with me." Edited by 1e4e6 on 03 January 2014 at 2:55am 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| culebrilla Senior Member United States Joined 3792 days ago 246 posts - 436 votes Speaks: Spanish | Message 87 of 119 03 January 2014 at 3:00am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
Yes they were competitors but they were also allies in the Iberian Union that they formed. All of the colonial powers of the day were both allies and enemies depending on the best political union they could form. From England, France, Netherlands, Belgium, Portugal, Germany, to Spain, there was a lot of competition and a lot of alliances going on. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||||||||||||||
| 1e4e6 Octoglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 4085 days ago 1013 posts - 1588 votes Speaks: English*, French, Spanish, Portuguese, Norwegian, Dutch, Swedish, Italian Studies: German, Danish, Russian, Catalan | Message 88 of 119 03 January 2014 at 3:36am | IP Logged | |||||||||||||||||
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I also had a Brasilian classmate in university who complained to me that everyone tried
to speak Spanish to him as well, and usually A2/B1 at maximum. He knew Spanish, but could not even communicate because his interlocutors could not follow. Then the other problem was that I knew Portuguese, but only the European form, and he had problems understanding me as well. He said that I spoke like Carminho and that the grammatical constructions were odd to him, i.e. he said that he never heard anyone say to him, Ver-vos-ei amanhã, but that he saw things like that in an old book. Edited by 1e4e6 on 03 January 2014 at 3:39am 3 persons have voted this message useful |
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