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| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6350 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes  Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 17 of 113 25 February 2011 at 7:12pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Team Tac 2011 - Team KEN - Log #6
Japanese LR I managed to find a Swedish translation of the The winds of Gath by E.C. Tubb (one of the few books that have a matching Japanese audiobook), so I'm happily LRing my way into the sci-fi universe. :) SRS-powered LR I've noticed a nice effect of my SRS project. Often, there are words within the SRS sentences that are not perfectly clear when I review them. But as soon as I come across them in my LR, their meaning tend to crystallize instantly. Probably, those words are resting somewhere in the back of my memory, waiting eagerly for the right moment where they can jump into my active vocab. Russian progress Reading Russian parallel texts has been my main Russian activity. I can often read several sentences without consulting the English translation at all. Maybe I'm just reading through an easier section, but at least it feels like I'm progressing quite well. Current plan My workload is slowly beginning to build up, but I'm determined to keep my languages active. :) ----------------------------------------- Team KEN - M. Medialis Edited by M. Medialis on 25 February 2011 at 7:13pm 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6350 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 18 of 113 26 February 2011 at 12:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Team Tac 2011 - Team KEN - Microlog
Woohoo! Just LRed 1.5 more hours of Russian, and was completely immersed by the story. It's a mesmerizing feeling. I need to shout.. I LOVE LANGUAGES!!! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6350 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 19 of 113 28 February 2011 at 12:03am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Team Tac 2011 - Team KEN - Log #7
I've been in a very inspired mood the last days and have just finished up a little 'weekend sprint'. After all this Scriptorium and LR my head is spinning with Japanese and Russian words, songs and expressions. Japanese Continued LRing The winds of Gath. Did two big Scriptorium sessions from The happy prince by Oscar Wilde. It's really a charming little story. Highly recommended! :) Japanese SRS I have continued to review my SRS setence deck whenever I have 10 minutes to spare. I thought I could mention that I almost always add sound files to my SRS cards. I have about 17000 sound files for individual words on my hard drive, and when I want to add one to my deck, I do a simple folder search in Windows 7 (using either hiragana or kanji as search string). Then I can just drag-and-drop the audio file into my Anki window. It's so simpo! :) I think the audio adds nice dynamics to my Japanese studies. Russian And today I finished LRing Crime and Punishment. I'm speechless- what an amazing book! Plan for the following week Do as much course work as possible so that I can free up some more time for language studies. :) Stats for the last two days: ------------------------------------ * Japanese LR: 2 hr 42 min * Kanji Writing Practice: 40 + 24 min = 1 hr 4 min * Japanese Scriptorium: 60 + 145 min = 3 hr 25 min * Japanese Sentence mining (SRS): 30 min * Japanese Watching Anime: 50 min * Russian LR: 2 hr 17 min * Russian Song Scriptorium: 30 min * Russian Scriptorium: 30 min Total: 11 hours 48 min ----------------------------------------- Team KEN - M. Medialis Edited by M. Medialis on 28 February 2011 at 12:03am 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6161 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1 | Message 20 of 113 28 February 2011 at 12:09am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Oscar Wilde and Dostoevsky in one week, good for you! Almost 12 hours for the past two days... a very good effort and I'm slightly jealous.
I've been thinking about taking up L-R for German. When do you think it is a good time to start L-Ring in a target language. Do you think after just a month of studying a language you'd get a lot of benefit from L-Ring a book? 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| M. Medialis Diglot TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member Sweden Joined 6350 days ago 397 posts - 508 votes Speaks: Swedish*, English Studies: Russian, Japanese, French | Message 21 of 113 28 February 2011 at 12:38am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, I would say that you can start straightaway. You may not build a lot of vocabulary in the very first round(s), but you'll gain other important skills that are hard to measure. I started LRing Japanese with no prior knowledge at all (really, I probably knew around 5 words). It didn't take me too long before I could follow along with the audio nicely, only by following the pace of the voice and the 'mood' of the sentences. And I was constantly looking out for common keywords in the text that I could deduce the meaning of - which then helped me to stay on track (words like 'when' and 'then' etc.). In some way, I felt that I could understand sentences at a 'meta-level', without knowing the words. I don't know how comfortable you are with the German word order. I had huge problems accepting that the Japanese put their verbs at the end of the sentences - but after my low-vocab LR, that grammatical feature was learnt automatically (among many other things). If you manage to find a book where the actor manages to give every character his/her own personal voice, you'll definitely get a sweeter ride. Just my experiences. I rarely care about learning stuff when I LR - I do it for the story and for the thrilling feeling of 'understanding' a new language. The learning is more of a bonus! :) Good luck! :) Edited by M. Medialis on 28 February 2011 at 12:40am 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Adrean TAC 2010 Winner Senior Member France adrean83.wordpress.c Joined 6161 days ago 348 posts - 411 votes Speaks: FrenchC1 | Message 23 of 113 10 March 2011 at 11:17pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
Ok I'm gonna take that advice and dive straight in. I think I'll start with 'Le Petit Prince' which seems to be a very popular point for starting.
Yeh I'm finding it quite difficult to begin with. They kind of chuck their verbs on the end too. Often they start a sentence with a verb rather then the subject which is kinda confusing too. I've barely stuck my nose into cases and all that scary stuff. But I think if you've got your goals a few years away as I do, that given a couple of years this stuff will become second nature. I'd rather learn the rule by being exposed to hundreds and hundreds of hours rather then learn it through a book. You eventually begin to pick up when things sound 'bizarre' or 'out of place' just by exposure.
That's exactly how I roll. :) Edited by Adrean on 10 March 2011 at 11:20pm 1 person has voted this message useful |
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