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Serpent Octoglot Senior Member Russian Federation serpent-849.livejour Joined 6598 days ago 9753 posts - 15779 votes 4 sounds Speaks: Russian*, English, FinnishC1, Latin, German, Italian, Spanish, Portuguese Studies: Danish, Romanian, Polish, Belarusian, Ukrainian, Croatian, Slovenian, Catalan, Czech, Galician, Dutch, Swedish
| Message 25 of 102 27 November 2013 at 2:14pm | IP Logged |
lorinth wrote:
Mandarin
Some sort of homebrewed superchallenge about which I'm currently thinking on my log. I find it more convienient to concentrate on rigid, but easily measured, milestones than on general knowledge indices such as the CEFR or exams like the HSK. Not that I don't want to use them from time to time. But a superchallenge-like process involves a daily routine that could help me, hopefully, to reach the next level. |
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You may be interested in the consistency thread :)
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| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4845 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian
| Message 26 of 102 27 November 2013 at 3:57pm | IP Logged |
I have been very wanderlusty in 2013, so I guess, in 2014, I will rather concentrate on the languages I’m already studying.
Russian
I want to get my overall-competence nearer to B2 this year. I especially want to improve my reading and listening understanding by using native materials. My ability to write and to speak should improve, too.
Irish
It took me some time to decide whether I want to go on with Irish or Scottish Gaelic, as it won’t be possible to study both languages simultaneously because of mutual interference. I have finally chosen Irish, because I think it’s the more beautiful and interesting language and I’m very fond of Ireland in general. I want to complete Learning Irish, Buntús Cainte, and Living Language Irish and get to an A2-B1 level in 2014. Additionally, I want to study the grammar of Old Irish with the book Sengoidelc.
Japanese
I definitely want to improve my Japanese. I’m somewhere at a low A1 level at the moment, but I want to get to A2 at least. I want to complete both volumes of Genki and possibly Colloquial Japanese. I am aware that Japanese is an exotic language which takes a lot of time and effort, so I only want to set a small goal. Reaching B1 in Japanese would nevertheless be wonderful.
Other
Besides my three focus languages, I might do something in French, Italian, Swedish, Icelandic, or Scottish Gaelic from time to time, mainly reading and listening. I consume English media all the time, so there’s no need for additional effort in this language. If wanderlust should strike me again, I might give another try at languages like Hungarian, Greek, Korean, or Welsh.
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| Expugnator Hexaglot Senior Member Brazil Joined 5167 days ago 3335 posts - 4349 votes Speaks: Portuguese*, Norwegian, French, English, Italian, Papiamento Studies: Mandarin, Georgian, Russian
| Message 27 of 102 27 November 2013 at 7:47pm | IP Logged |
Here's what I had in mind for this year:
Expugnator wrote:
French: I really dpn't know which is my leves át. English.
Maybe a close B2. I want to get used to
spoken French, understand about 70% of it. I want to read about 10 novels and write 20
paragraphs.
Russian: I've just started. Want to be able to read language textbooks written
for Russian speakers with
a dictionary.
Norwegian: gain básic reading fluêncy. Read one native novel and one
translation.
Chinese: Achieve a solid B1 level, mainly with podcast.
Georgian Consolidate a B1 level. Read one translated and one original novels.
Would be good if I
could read a Georgian-Russian parallel text and understand it, like Dumbadze's books.
English get basic fluency at understanding spoken standard American English.
Watch a full season of a
TV series.
German: Be able to read a textbook in German about other languages comfortably.
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Of these, I may say I reached my goal in French. I attend meetings with native
speakers and I can understand them talk to themselves. I can also watch dubbed videos
almost effortlessly. I still have much trouble with native videos, though, especially
films. And I've accomplished the tasks I mentioned. I also gained basic reading fluency
in Norwegian, as I can read a book and look up only one or two words per period.
I may be at an overall B1. English and German were ok, I'm not even
learning German yet but I studied Georgian from a thick textbook in German and I could
follow the explanations satisfactorily (actually internalizing the concepts is another
issue =) ). I could also add Papiamento, which came up during the year because
of a trip. I reached basic fluency after studying from April to September, when I took
the trip.
As for the others...they still follow me for 2014 with average expectations. I'm no
solid B1 in Georgian, Chinese or Russian. It wasn't lack of
consistence: I studied each of them for at least 30 minutes every workday of 2013 up to
now. They're just harder than expected, or maybe it's me who doesn't focus on
memorizing words individually before moving on. I even tried audio/video immersion on
Chinese and Georgian and hasn't got results yet.
So, after the digression, here come my goals:
French - 1.Be comfortable with watching videos in French. This could be achieved
by watching native films.2. Write more regularly and more correctly, maybe reaching a
B2 level which I'd hardly be able to evaluate. This should be achieved through the
'writing dialogues' challenge and, later on, by choosing topics of interest for actual
essays.
Norwegian1. I aim for basic fluency, I want to add it to my 'Speaks' status, but
the main point is to be able to watch videos w/o subtitles and follow the plot
consistently, that is, basic listening fluency.
Chinese1. Read one novel, no matter how short it is. 2. Be able to follow
cartoons with subtitles comfortably, with up to 80% comprehension.3. Be able to read
short news items comfortably, that is, basic news reading fluency.
Georgian1. Reach basic reading fluency. 2.Write regularly on it.
Russian1. Reach basic reading fluency. 2. Be able to exchange messages online
with the help of online translators comfortably, and actually do that (I can already do
this for Georgian so what I have in mind is a low B1 for writing). Btw, I give up on
2013's goals as I don't plan on using textbooks for Russian speakers on other languages
anytime soon.
All in all, I want to be able to learn Chinese, Russian and Georgian with FUN. I want
to be able to use native materials, both reading and watching, with a little less
effort. So far I'm still struggling at a low B1 stage and it's still too textbook-ish
or directed at line-by-line translation and not so much fun. That's what I really want
for 2014, to finally be able to learn either Chinese or Russian or Georgian on a fun
way so that I can enjoy them, feel rewarded for the effort spent and start another
language.
New languages
As strong as I try to be against wanderlusting, I long for exploring a new culture. My
next false-beginner language would be German, and starting it depends on being
comfortable enough with Norwegian. My next language from scratch would be Estonian,
even though I also feel like starting either Malay-Indonesian or BCMS. So, I'm posting
my goals for new languages even if I'm not sure when I'll be able to take them. Maybe
on the 2nd semester, maybe only in 2015.
*German1. Reach basic reading fluency, after all, I'm restarting from a high a2
and now I have the Norwegian background to sum up. 2. Read one novel with translation
in a subject of very high interest.
*Estonian1. Reach A2, in case I do manage to start it.
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| sabotai Senior Member United States Joined 5883 days ago 391 posts - 489 votes Speaks: English* Studies: German, Japanese, Korean, French
| Message 28 of 102 27 November 2013 at 9:34pm | IP Logged |
2014 Goals
German: Finish off all of my "almost done" learning resources. I'm in the 80s for Assimil, more than half way through Teach Yourself and about a third of the way through Linguaphone. Although I've completed these in the past, my previous go throughs were quick and much of it didn't stick. I also would like to have my overall goal of 250 pages of intensive reading completed.
French: To have Assimil and Teach Yourself completed.
Korean: I'm going to finish off Sogang 1A today and begin (re)doing Yonsei 1 (2 books). By the end of 2014, I want to either be on of have finished Sogang 2B and Yonsei 2 (2 books).
Japanese: To either have finished or be doing the JPod101 Lower Intermediate Seasons, and to be finished with the Genki 1 textbook and Assimil Japanese.
And, for all four languages, a general goal of spending at least 5 days every week making meaningful progress in them (IOW, spending at least 30 minutes a day - 5 days a week - on each of them.). Obviously 7 days out of 7 would be ideal, but I'm keeping this realistic.
Russian, Bengali, Greek, Thai, Hindi, Arabic - Be able to read their writing system, even if I don't understand a single word of what I'm reading.
Edited by sabotai on 27 November 2013 at 9:36pm
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| druckfehler Triglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4869 days ago 1181 posts - 1912 votes Speaks: German*, EnglishC2, Korean Studies: Persian
| Message 29 of 102 27 November 2013 at 11:11pm | IP Logged |
No big goals for me, please.
Korean: Keep using it however I please.
Persian: Start studying seriously and make noticeable progress.
If I do that I will improve both languages, but without the pressure of any specific goals.
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| BaronBill Triglot Senior Member United States HowToLanguages.comRegistered users can see my Skype Name Joined 4690 days ago 335 posts - 594 votes Speaks: English*, French, German Studies: Spanish, Mandarin, Persian
| Message 30 of 102 27 November 2013 at 11:42pm | IP Logged |
I am going ambitious this year. My Goals:
German: Move my conversational B2 towards a comfortable C1 through Skype practice, and real-life Meetups.
Spanish: By the end of 2014, I would like to be at a firm B2 crossing into C1. I will acheive this by watching movies and TV series in Spanish, reading novels in Spanish, Skype lessons in Spanish, and real-life Meetups.
Mandarin: I am starting Mandarin on the first of the year in 2014 and my Goal is spoken B2 by the first day of 2015. I am documenting every step and fine-tuning my methodology. I am not interested in reading or writing, only oral conversation.
Indonesian or Tagalog: I am going to be starting one of these two languages in May/June with the goal of a conversational B1 by the end of 2014.
I would like to be able to change Spanish and Mandarin to "speaks" here on the forum
Edited by BaronBill on 27 November 2013 at 11:50pm
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| Thatzright Diglot Senior Member Finland Joined 5673 days ago 202 posts - 311 votes Speaks: Finnish*, English Studies: French, Swedish, German, Russian
| Message 31 of 102 28 November 2013 at 12:04am | IP Logged |
Goals for 2014:
To become active on this forum again, for one : )
Swedish: Finally taking that last step to becoming... shall we say, proficient.
That seems suitable. I consider myself to be beyond what this site considers
"intermediate" (or what I consider intermediate by my own dang precious standards, for
that matter), but I'm not quite "fluent". I'm sort of stuck in this middle ground where
a relatively small vocabulary is holding me back.
French: Preferably something similar to Swedish. I'm finally starting to reach a
point with French radio where I can actually tell where words begin and end, that is,
it's starting to appear as more rhythmical to me and not just complete gibberish.
Trouble is, I still don't understand most of what they're saying, but I'll be damned if
it ain't encouraging anyhow : ] I'm studying French at uni now and will continue to do
so for at the least the entirety of come spring.
German: Yes, I would like to get somewhere with German. I'm actually only
starting out, but I have a good feel about this language and quite frankly wish to be
proficient by the end of 2014. A formidable task, no doubt, but I'm fairly certain and
confident that I'm fully capable of it. German is so similar to Swedish and English,
I've already dabbled in the language and can even understand some German radio at this
point. Independent study is to be the name of the game.
Russian: Just... I don't know, kind of... keep it up? Have a look at it every
now and then, maintaining it slightly above this certain kind of "survival level" would
be swell. Full-on active
studying will come later.
I think that'll quite do for next year.
Edited by Thatzright on 28 November 2013 at 12:11am
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| osoymar Tetraglot Pro Member United States Joined 4737 days ago 190 posts - 344 votes Speaks: English*, German, Portuguese, Japanese Studies: Spanish, French Personal Language Map
| Message 32 of 102 28 November 2013 at 1:53am | IP Logged |
German: I'm not displeased with the level I'm at now, mainly I'm working on my
reading. I can already read a book, enjoy it and hope to reasonably understand most of
it, but as a goal, let's say I'd like to be only missing 2-3 words per page. I do love
speaking as well, but I don't have as many opportunities for that. I also think the
reading will help with comprehension of T.V. and movies.
Japanese: My job is currently keeping my Japanese level afloat but also killing
any motivation to actively study it, so my main goal next year is to change my
attitude. I would like to start reading again regularly.
Portuguese: This is easy: I'm going to Brazil for the World Cup in June and I'd
like to be able to communicate fluently with a limited repertoire of subjects (let's
call it Benny Lewis level, whether that's an insult or compliment I don't know). The
real question is after I come back, will my motivation be higher before, or will I be
content to let it fall by the wayside? I'd be content either way but right now I love
the language and I suspect I'll keep it up.
Spanish:[/B} I mainly just want to find a combination of study habits / motivation
to keep making progress and keep this apart from the Portuguese. Perhaps I'll lean more
in the reading direction? I do think that with a bit of work I could get to the level
of piecing things together without a dictionary, which to me is much more pleasant than
intensive reading.
Other? Just throwing this out there- I would like to learn the basics of
Russian, and it certainly wouldn't hurt to learn some Chinese. I always have the idea
of learning Norwegian in the back of my head, but I'm not sure it's practical enough
right now to pursue. But I don't think I'll add a language unless German suddenly
becomes ridiculously easy or I decide to stop studying one of the others. Or maybe if I
win the lottery and never need to work again?
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