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Has anybody tried the Gold List method? | ||
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes  Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 97 of 222 25 March 2010 at 12:26pm | IP Logged | ||||||||
That is indeed what we are trying to achieve.
That is not what we are trying to achieve. 3 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| BartoG Diglot Senior Member United States confession Joined 5235 days ago 292 posts - 818 votes Speaks: English*, French Studies: Italian, Spanish, Latin, Uzbek | Message 98 of 222 26 March 2010 at 6:29am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Arekkusu,
Looking again, I see I meandered a bit in my last post. What I was going for is that meaningless syllables, even if given some significance, still wouldn't have the overall framework of language to exist in, so it might be that what the memory tests are directed toward does not address what we are trying to achieve here (to take your phrase). 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| starst Triglot Senior Member China Joined 5302 days ago 113 posts - 133 votes Speaks: Mandarin*, Japanese, EnglishC2 Studies: FrenchC1, German, Norwegian | Message 99 of 222 26 March 2010 at 10:37am | IP Logged | ||||||||
25 sounds a long list... I'm thinking of giving it a try with 10 words/day, hmm. 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 100 of 222 01 April 2010 at 4:32am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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Well, this was my first distillation.
I did not remember 30% of the words. Actually, I probably barely remembered 10%. But, as the system requires, I proceeded to distill until 8 of the 25 entries were eliminated by combining multiple entries into single entries. This was the first distillation of my first list, so perhaps I hadn't adjusted to the system just yet. I've got another 2 weeks worth of lists, so I'll continue the experiment. 2 persons have voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5523 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 101 of 222 01 April 2010 at 4:41am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I just reviewed my list (I only made one. I'm lazy.) and I only sort-of remembered 4 out of 25 words, and those I mostly just guessed correctly from the individual character meanings. So, as far as I am concerned, Gold Lists don't work, and I'll stick to my SRS.
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| Arekkusu Hexaglot Senior Member Canada bit.ly/qc_10_lec Joined 5169 days ago 3971 posts - 7747 votes Speaks: English, French*, GermanC1, Spanish, Japanese, Esperanto Studies: Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Estonian | Message 102 of 222 01 April 2010 at 4:47am | IP Logged | ||||||||
You're pretty quick to throw in the towel! 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Pyx Diglot Senior Member China Joined 5523 days ago 670 posts - 892 votes Speaks: German*, English Studies: Mandarin | Message 103 of 222 01 April 2010 at 4:52am | IP Logged | ||||||||
Well, what do you expect me to do? Stick with a method which does not appear to work for me when there is a perfectly fine method which has proven itself to me? No, Sir, I'll be interested to hear about your experiences, but when I tried something and it didn't deliver - then going back to what works isn't "throwing the towel" to me, but just common sense :) 1 person has voted this message useful | |||||||||
| Splog Diglot Senior Member Czech Republic anthonylauder.c Joined 5457 days ago 1062 posts - 3263 votes Speaks: English*, Czech Studies: Mandarin | Message 104 of 222 01 April 2010 at 10:01am | IP Logged | ||||||||
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I have used goldlists for a few months now, trying out several variations (such as combining them with Iversen's idea of writing the target word twice per row). After all these experiments I came to the conclusion that the most important factor in their effectiveness was that the lists contained words I cared about learning. A list of 25 parts of a washing machine was a complete failure (I remembered absolutely none of them two weeks later). A list of words from an article about the Iron Age (something I am interested in) resulted in remembering more than half of the words.
As others have said, it is a very similar system to a SRS. The difference being that (as with Iversen's wordlists) you write the entries by hand rather than type them up. The creator of Goldlists says this is an important part of the method since (somehow) our brains are wired to pay attention to what we write (rather than type). My own feeling on this was that writing is (for me) slower than typing, so that I was forced to pay more attention to the words as I wrote them out. For words I wanted to learn this was a great advantage, since I could wallow in them, and ponder them as I wrote. For words I had no interest in, though, the writing was a chore I couldn't wait to escape from. 13 persons have voted this message useful |
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