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| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4506 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes  Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 297 of 586 06 January 2013 at 7:18pm | IP Logged | |||||
We all start somewhere. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| mrwarper Diglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member Spain forum_posts.asp?TID=Registered users can see my Skype Name Joined 5025 days ago 1493 posts - 2500 votes Speaks: Spanish*, EnglishC2 Studies: German, Russian, Japanese | Message 298 of 586 06 January 2013 at 11:30pm | IP Logged | |||||
I always knew I'd had to learn the moves some day. Damn... :) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| LanguageSponge Triglot Senior Member United Kingdom Joined 5565 days ago 1197 posts - 1487 votes Speaks: English*, German, French Studies: Welsh, Russian, Japanese, Slovenian, Greek, Italian | Message 299 of 586 07 January 2013 at 1:02pm | IP Logged | |||||
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I can't even play one game of chess and win. As proved while sitting on the plane home (from Paris due to the almighty English fog) against a Japanese man who wiped the floor with me. I also proved to myself that I need to kick my Mandarin into high gear as I was more comfortable using Japanese with this 80-something year old man than Mandarin with my co-workers. Sigh.
Will update later as I'm knackered. Jack 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Josquin Heptaglot Senior Member Germany Joined 4643 days ago 2266 posts - 3992 votes Speaks: German*, English, French, Latin, Italian, Russian, Swedish Studies: Japanese, Irish, Portuguese, Persian | Message 300 of 586 07 January 2013 at 6:38pm | IP Logged | |||||
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Uh, quite an impressive list, Jack. I'll be happy to take on these challenges when I have the time. Unfortunately, my day should have 48 hours at the moment so that I could do everything I want to do and everything I have to do as well. I was able to do some Russian during my trip to Denmark, but I haven't done serious studying for several weeks now. My January seems to be quite packed as well, so I don't know how much I'll get done during the next few weeks. However, I'm really motivated to do something and I can't wait until I have some time for myself and my languages.
A Happy New Year and a successful TAC '13 to all of you! Успехов! 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Solfrid Cristin Heptaglot Winner TAC 2011 & 2012 Senior Member Norway Joined 5133 days ago 4143 posts - 8864 votes Speaks: Norwegian*, Spanish, Swedish, French, English, German, Italian Studies: Russian | Message 301 of 586 07 January 2013 at 7:19pm | IP Logged | |||||
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To the Russians on the forum I would like to wish them С Рождеством и Со старым новым годом
(although the latter if I have understood correctly is not until the 13th). Thank you for helping us out, and for correcting all our mistakes. We appreciate what you do :-) 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4855 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 302 of 586 07 January 2013 at 7:53pm | IP Logged | |||||
Спасибо большое. 1 person has voted this message useful | ||||||
| tarvos Super Polyglot Winner TAC 2012 Senior Member China likeapolyglot.wordpr Joined 4506 days ago 5310 posts - 9399 votes Speaks: Dutch*, English, Swedish, French, Russian, German, Italian, Norwegian, Mandarin, Romanian, Afrikaans Studies: Greek, Modern Hebrew, Spanish, Portuguese, Czech, Korean, Esperanto, Finnish | Message 303 of 586 08 January 2013 at 12:46am | IP Logged | |||||
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We have a discovery of the day, folks! Pay attention, because this is something you
might come across in colloquial speech. Russian Discovery of the Day So, I have made a discovery of the day. This doesn't concern a really intricate grammar point or the aspects of the tenses; rather, it's an aspect of colloquial, and slangy Russian that you might come across when talking to or chatting with Russians both in real life and on the internet. As you might know, I have spoken Russian quite often, and I have a select group of friends who I write to and chat with, entirely in Russian. You read that right - I am maintaining these friendships through Russian without using Any English Whatsoever. And yes, I am doing it through Grammatically Incorrect Russian. But I have spoken to these people for months, I have been talking to them for over half a year now, entirely in Russian. But during these chats you come across a lot of new words. I used to have to use a dictionary to almost translate responses word for word. But over time I got better. Nowadays I barely need a dictionary, and they praise me for my Russian and they are very happy to speak to me and help me out! However, some things still remained unclear to me, and I'll address one in particular. To indicate a sort of future tense in Russian, you can use Я пойду + infinitive, a common combination is я пойду спать. However, whenever my friends in Siberia would announce they were going to bed (they are six hours ahead of me, so they are often up late when I haven't had dinner yet, and they'll go to bed... or sometimes they will stay up until five and not go to sleep before I have gone to sleep either...), they would say Я спать. (entirely leaving out the пойду). Now, you can occasionally leave out the verb to go in the present tense. But I didn't know you could also do it in the future tense. So I asked and I said something like сейчас я писать диссертацию. But she said it was better to add the пойду. So I asked what's the difference? She said in principle there is no difference. You can leave out пойду when you talk, but not when you write; however, some people are simply lazy, and leave it out when chatting anyway (it's colloquial, after all!). So it turns out that this tarzan way of expressing sleep (I to-sleep?), is actually fairly normal in speech! (I have taken to using it when appropriate, of course). But it's also telling that you've improved when this sort of thing is what you notice, and not a new verb conjugation. Or a new grammatical feature. Edited by tarvos on 08 January 2013 at 12:47am 2 persons have voted this message useful | ||||||
| Марк Senior Member Russian Federation Joined 4855 days ago 2096 posts - 2972 votes Speaks: Russian* | Message 304 of 586 08 January 2013 at 11:44am | IP Logged | |||||
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Я - спать (compare Я - домой). The dash corresponds to a special intonation in the oral
speech. I don't think it is used very often independently. Что вы будете делать? Я - спать, а он - есть. Я - спать sounds strange to me, a verb is needed. 1 person has voted this message useful |
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